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    Jesus. How is torture and rape as widespread and prominent as it is in this war? This is not normal.

    What does this say about Russian people that such a high percentage of their armed forces are so perverted, sadistic and vile?

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        It might just be the last 150 years that humans have tried to sanitize war but the behavior of Russia is notably awful even by medieval standards.

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          Historically war basically consisted of everyone getting together in a big field and having a large fight. People who lived all of half a mile away could just get on with their lives as long as they didn’t go near the war field.

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        It’s way, way more widespread in this war. Also note the distinct lack of torture being committed by the Ukrainians of the captured Russians.

        The genocidal behavior is common in other wars, unfortunately, but the high percentage of documented rape and torture of civilians, including elderly and children, is extremely unusual.

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          Do you have data to back that up? I can image that the Russians deliberately use rape and torture as a kind of weapon to demoralize Ukrainians, though.

          The fact that Ukrainians don’t seem to rape captured Russians comes down (I assume) to two things:

          • Ukraine needs NATO support and it would be a really bad look for them if they raped their prisoners

          • Most soldiers are (straight) men and I think there are a lot more opportunities for the invading Russians to rape than there are for Ukrainians

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            Yes defend the mass rape and torture, because the Ukrainians have reasons not to rape and torture they’re just as bad for not doing it somehow.

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                You literally just made a “both sides” argument out of thin air in defense of the side doing the mass rape. Justify that however you want to yourself. It has a very clear message.

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      It’s something that happens when you give people weapons and let them loose in another country knowing there is little oversight or consequences. Just allows the bad guys to finally do what they want. The “regular people” contain an underestimated amount of assholes.

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      Russia has always used state sponsored terror tactics and humanities violations. Just go read up on the way they treated people in their way to Berlin in WW2. It’s horrifying. Raping children to death in front of their families is just standard operating procedure for the Russian army and that never stopped being true.

      Now, they’ve used another time honored Russian strategy. They emptied the prisons/gulags to flesh out their front line. Which just feeds into the depravity of the troops who are well known for this kind of behavior already.

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      It’s normal for war situations. The kind of people who become soldiers are almost always open for raping other people when given the chance. If you read about other wars, rape is always very common.

      They are programmed into believing that the other country is evil, so that justifies their actions in their own minds.

      Soldiers are lost souls.

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    Not an excuse but the Russian population has been brutalised for a few hundred years and they are culturally warped in a manner known clinically as “Fucked in the head”.

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      A traumatized dog is a dangerous dog and has to be put down. I’m glad to see that the Ukraine army is doing as such.

      Once the war is over, every Russian man that took part in it must be neutralised, it’s the only way. Rapists, and those that allow such atrocities, do not deserve to live and must die for the good of others.

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    How the fuck is their age relevant?

    Does the person who wrote this think old women generally don’t get raped?
    Or that the rape of an old woman is somehow worse than that of a young one?

    “Russian troops raped women while their families were forced to listen” gets the same story across, sensationalising victims’ details for clicks is gross.

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      It’s to portray Russian soldier as people who doesn’t even respect 80 year olds. Similar to when someone kills an 80 year old to steal a bag when all they have to do is take it. The killing is completely unnecessary and shows cruelty. And same thing here, the article is designed to show how cruel Russian soldiers are who doesnt even leave 80 year olds alone.

      That’s my interpretation.

      Otherwise yes, of course young women are raped much more then 80 year old wimen. That’s why it’s considered extra cruel, and that’s why they are pointing it out.

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      It reinforces that the rapes are done for the terror factor of victims beyond those that are raped and not because the soldiers are horny or whatever other stupid excuse.

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      I think almost any crime against the elderly or children is generally viewed as worse, with good reason. They’re generally more helpless and less able to fight back/run away.

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      I also find that odd. It makes it almost seem as if raping elderly women is something that requires extra mention. So that nobody assumes that we are talking about the “normal”, “understandable” rape of younger women. It’s seriously fucked up.