Shares in crisis-hit Chinese property giant Evergrande have been suspended in Hong Kong amid reports its chairman has been placed under police surveillance.

It follows reports earlier this week that other current and former executives had also been detained.

Thursday’s market statement did not give a reason for the trading halt.

But it marks another low for the heavily indebted property giant which defaulted in 2021, triggering China’s current real estate market crisis.

In August, the firm filed for bankruptcy in New York, in a bid to protect its US assets as it worked on a multi-billion dollar deal with creditors.

  • Bernie Ecclestoned
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    339 months ago

    Waiting for the tankards to twist themselves in knots explaining this one

    • @[email protected]
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      319 months ago

      Am I supposed to think a government holding the people running businesses (apparently very poorly in this case) accountable for their actions is a bad thing?

      • @[email protected]
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        The question is are they being held accountable for doing something illegal, or are they being prosecuted for running a business poorly? One is good, the other is overreach.

        Then again, considering how deeply involved the CCP is with large Chinese businesses this could be seen as a completely internal issue.

        • Kit Sorens
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          39 months ago

          Chinese government overreach? Surely hell has frozen over /s

        • @[email protected]
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          -19 months ago

          I guess both given the massive scale of the business and its massive impacts on the whole economy is reasonable

      • Dr. Moose
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        129 months ago

        A bit too late for that isnt it? Chinese government has been propping up ghost shit building for years and now that shit is going down and all of their pockets are full they drop some scapegoats. You just can’t lose as an authoritarian huh.

      • @[email protected]
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        99 months ago

        A public statement “z is detained for y” is generally expected compared to the usual “no one has seen x from china lately, they probably got held by the govt”

      • @[email protected]
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        79 months ago

        I definitely can applaud their government for potentially holding them accountable. However they’re not arrested yet, and more importantly it’s not like this was a secret or fraud per se. We’ve been hearing about China’s “ghost cities” for a number of years now. Buildings built without people in them, buildings half built or only the shell to look complete, and that’s through media that’s allowed to escape their walled garden of information. To me there’s no way that even Xi himself didn’t know that Evergande or Country Garden wasn’t out defrauding the average Chinese citizen. So while good on them for putting them under surveillance today, it’s also terrible of them to have let this gone on.

        I’m also an American though so my information may be limited on this subject matter since I’m not a focused person on one country or field.

        • HobbitFoot
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          49 months ago

          The problem with using ghost cities as a metric is that China has a lot of pent up demand to urbanize and those cities would get filled within a few years. That pent up demand is what led to a generation of growth.

          However, the plan works until it doesn’t.

          China seems to have hit a limit on growth and that limit seems correlated to population growth instead of COVID. Worse, housing investment is a key way that people save for retirement. Even worse, municipalities and provinces can’t raise their own taxes, so they’ve been incentivized to keep building even as the national government has been trying to put the breaks on the economy.

          There might have been some criminal malfeasance, but there is also a failure of public policy from the national level down. Part of it may be why Xi has become more autocratic in the past few years; the party is going through its first recession in a generation and this is new ground for them.

          • Avid Amoeba
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            59 months ago

            Well, a significant part of this can be resolved nicely by creating a comprehensive welfare system. Just off the top of my head - buy out the apartments purchased as investment and provide good pensions in their place. Then people won’t feel the need to participate in this failing market and won’t be affected of its potential collapse. I’ve been wondering why there’s no proper welfare system in China and I recently stumbled upon info that Xi believes welfare makes people lazy. So that’s a problem. If I were a Chinese citizen whose bought into the social contract with the CCP, I’d expect the construction of a good welfare system out of it.

      • @[email protected]
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        -59 months ago

        Yes, you are supposed to think that a government imprisoning a subject that has committed no crime is a bad thing

        • @[email protected]
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          169 months ago

          Where did you get this information that no crime has been committed and they are just being detained for shits and giggles?

          • YeetPics
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            09 months ago

            So what is the charge? I’m still waiting rofl

            • @[email protected]
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              09 months ago

              None of your business? China is free to make charges public whenever they choose. I really don’t get why you think it’s so meaningful of a difference between not making charges and making charges that can then be dropped at any time. Your justice system doesn’t have any more high ground.

              • YeetPics
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                Lol you got mad when people assumed China was holding an innocent person prisoner, and you get defensive when asked what the charge they’re being held on is.

                But go ahead and talk about ‘my’ justice system rofl. You aren’t trustworthy, and neither is the Chinese government. Totalitarian goose steppers.

          • @[email protected]
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            09 months ago

            The article?

            I don’t know where you live, but in my country people get charged with crimes, then arrested.

            • @[email protected]
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              109 months ago

              The article says no such thing.

              And I’m pretty sure your country has some form of investigative detention. If you’re American that can last up to 48 hours. And it really doesn’t matter because authorities there can just throw out charges, deny bail, blackmail people with absurd incarceration lengths into confessing their guilt, and detain them for years before a trial (or forever in some cases). And at any point in time those charges can be dropped.

              And if you really want to go into the pros and cons between different justice systems, we can do that but it doesn’t really have much to do with being a tankie or not.

              • Bernie Ecclestoned
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                If you’re poor sure, but not CEOs for white collar crime

                Bernie Madoff was out and about until convicted

                • @Jakeroxs
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                  109 months ago

                  Is that supposed to be a good thing?

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  • AutoTL;DRB
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    89 months ago

    This is the best summary I could come up with:


    Shares in crisis-hit Chinese property giant Evergrande have been suspended in Hong Kong amid reports its chairman has been placed under police surveillance.

    When the firm defaulted on its huge debts in 2021, it sent shockwaves through global financial markets as the property sector contributes to roughly a quarter of China’s economy.

    A credit crunch would be very bad news for the world’s second largest economy, because companies that can’t borrow find it difficult to grow, and in some cases are unable to continue operating.

    Then on Wednesday, Bloomberg News reported the firm’s founder Hui Ka Yan, who is also known as Xu Jiayin, had been taken away by police this month and was being monitored at a designated location.

    “China’s property-sector stress will continue to pose cross-sector credit risks in the near term,” wrote Lan Wang and Duncan Innes-Ker of Fitch Ratings.

    “The government’s modest policy easing to date is unlikely to drive a sharp turnaround in homebuyers’ sentiment, even though it has led to some recent improvements in broader economic indicators,” their report said.


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  • @[email protected]
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    29 months ago

    The company lost 99% evaluation and its shares lost most of its value. Soon this’s going to effect more than China’s economy