Did the admins poll the community about it? Why was such measure so needed? If the tankie content is so annoying why not let users decide what they want to see or not and what they want to block?

I don’t like that the admins want to censor the content I can view or not. You guys are not protecting us nor doing us a favor, you’re imposing your views over everyone else by limiting the information we are able to receive.

I don’t support the devs views or the views in lemmygrad, but this is a dangerous precedent.

I’ve read several of the “arguments” for blocking the instance and all I can see is a bunch of people talking about politics and arguing about “floods in the frontpage”. Well, let the user block communities if that’s the case, same way I’m already blocking communities I’m not interested.

I think the admins want to feel like Facebook moderation. I’d be OK with it if any instance repeatedly generated spam, security, doxxing or any other concern that couldn’t be solved by banning individuals, otherwise it’s just plain censorship.

I just don’t want the admins to use their power to decide what I can see or not. If this is going to be like this, I’ll leave for a better instance because I can see where this is going to.

  • icyOPEnglish
    929·
    2 years ago

    So tldr “stfu and gtfo”? I can get outta here and, been saying it from the beginning, I probably will, but I won’t be silent about it.

      • AliaEnglish
        617·
        2 years ago

        Bet that’s what Spez said about the whole reddit blackout protest. Great to see this attitude over here…

        • Oni_eyesEnglish
          162·
          2 years ago

          Possibly, though spez didn’t have the option of joining the other servers that are in link and have looser rules regarding what content is acceptable.

          This user has all the ability to join any and all of the instances they desire, but chose to come to this one and then threw a fit about the moderation style.

          Tell me about the other Reddit clones that I could join to avoid spez. Please. Make that connection so that your point holds any water.

          • AliaEnglish
            38·
            2 years ago

            It’s not about having the ability to “take the highway”. Most people here don’t seem to be getting it. It’s about the way things are done.
            It’s still the early days of Lemmy as a whole, and things haven’t yet fallen into place. People come with different expectations, especially regarding censorship, myself included. There’s nothing in this instance’s ruleset that gives the idea that the 4th largest Lemmy instance is unacceptable due to “commie thought” and pro-China views.
            I say that as a non-communist that holds no love for China’s government, but I sure as shit ain’t threatened by them either.

            • Oni_eyesEnglish
              8·
              2 years ago

              You mean like the rule that states no bigotry?

              • AliaEnglish
                34·
                2 years ago

                How are they dealing in bigotry over there? And if they are under a set definition, are we to apply that definition equally to all other communities as well? Or just the commies?

                • Oni_eyesEnglish
                  8·
                  2 years ago

                  Bigotry is “obstinate or unreasonable attachment to a belief, opinion, or faction, in particular prejudice against a person or people on the basis of their membership of a particular group”

                  When they are outright denying abuse of a minority group and supporting the power that abused, that becomes bigotry as an example.

                  I would also expect exploding heads to be defederated due to the same reasons.

                  We should apply that evenly and if the admin does not, then I will likely move to a server that does.

                  As it stands now, it would have been nice if there was an announcement but even the examples brought up in this thread of “discussion about defederation in other instances” it was a user who asked why a server was defederated and the mod responded. There was no vote or community feedback at the start.

    • cowleggies@reddthat.comEnglish
      213·
      2 years ago

      You’re way too aggressive about this. You can join any other instance and access the same content, or start your own. Nobody is “silencing” you.

      • icyOPEnglish
        617·
        2 years ago

        I haven’t claimed to be silenced by anyone at the moment. I’m just tired of like 10 people stating the obvious “join other instance” as if I didn’t know it beforehand and said I was thinking of doing that same thing since my very first post; or stating that I shouldn’t be demanding anything from the admins (not even reasons or transparency?)

        I don’t think I’m being aggressive at all, I do think this community is way to defensive about any criticism to this particular measure, and I think it is due to a deeply ingrained censorship culture that sites like Reddit and Facebook groups greatly normalized in the internet.

        • icyOPEnglish
          413·
          2 years ago

          The cultural defeat is so strong that people here are equating transparent and responsible leadership with corporate governance, lol. As if volunteer or small-project admins couldn’t be serious or good.

          • zpoexEnglish
            141·
            2 years ago

            It’s just not serious or good for you. Don’t just go out here and hate on all of us lol. I’m perfectly fine with that community being blocked so that there will less likely be tankies here. It’s not that deep homie