• tsz@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    72
    arrow-down
    19
    ·
    1 year ago

    Perhaps Israel shouldn’t have put so much effort into ensuring Palestinians didn’t have access to education and other basic human rights. I’m not into what Hamas is doing or what they’ve done really ever, but what were these rabbis doing while Palestine was being bulldozed for settlements? What, honestly, was the expected outcome? Decades of grinding them down wasnt making things more peaceful. I don’t get it. You cannot blame people for not being sympathetic to headlines like this. You just can’t.

      • lolcatnip@reddthat.com
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        32
        arrow-down
        5
        ·
        edit-2
        1 year ago

        Good job conflating Palestinians with Hamas. The only reason I might suspect it’s not intentional is that you did it with such a glaring lack of subtlety.

      • Womble@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        16
        arrow-down
        1
        ·
        1 year ago

        I guess Israel shouldnt have backed Hamas in order create an Islamist opposition to the secular Fatah and PLO huh?

      • Annoyed_🦀 @monyet.cc
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        28
        arrow-down
        14
        ·
        1 year ago

        Zionist is founded on the principle that taking the whole Palestine as their own land. Yet you expect Palestinian to invite Zionists over for coffee and hummus.

        • sun_is_ra
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          14
          arrow-down
          6
          ·
          edit-2
          1 year ago

          I think its “Israeli state shouldnt exist” not “Jews shouldnt exist”.

          Jews were living in most Arab countries including Palastine well before the establishment of Israeli state.

          Edit: In fact Jews do live in Iran until this day

            • sun_is_ra
              link
              fedilink
              English
              arrow-up
              20
              arrow-down
              3
              ·
              1 year ago

              Ya but like what many people repeat. Palestine is not Hamas.

              • BombOmOm@lemmy.world
                link
                fedilink
                English
                arrow-up
                5
                arrow-down
                12
                ·
                edit-2
                1 year ago

                Palestine is not Hamas.

                Hamas is the governing party of Palestine. Palestine is Hamas in the same way Russia is the Putin administration. Certainly that can change in the future, but right now, Hamas is running the government of Palestine.

                • Echo71Niner@lemm.ee
                  link
                  fedilink
                  English
                  arrow-up
                  13
                  arrow-down
                  2
                  ·
                  1 year ago

                  Hamas is the governing party of Palestine.

                  No it’s not. You are confusing Palestine with Gaza, Gaza is a small part of Palestine.

                  • BombOmOm@lemmy.world
                    link
                    fedilink
                    English
                    arrow-up
                    2
                    arrow-down
                    2
                    ·
                    edit-2
                    1 year ago

                    Sorry, I should have said: Hamas is the governing party of Palestine in the Gaza Strip, there is no government above them as Hamas is the government of that portion of Palestine. That entire region of Palestine is Hamas in the same way Russia is the Putin administration.

                    Hamas … is a Sunni Islamist political and military organization that is the de facto government of Palestine in the Gaza Strip

                    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hamas

                • sun_is_ra
                  link
                  fedilink
                  English
                  arrow-up
                  5
                  ·
                  1 year ago

                  So Israel is Natanyaho then? These are all awful governing bodies but they don’t represent their people in my opinion.

                  • BombOmOm@lemmy.world
                    link
                    fedilink
                    English
                    arrow-up
                    1
                    arrow-down
                    1
                    ·
                    1 year ago

                    Russia never invaded Ukraine, it was just the Putin administration who invaded Ukraine.

                    -Said by no one ever

            • Echo71Niner@lemm.ee
              link
              fedilink
              English
              arrow-up
              4
              arrow-down
              5
              ·
              1 year ago

              They arrested many “American Jews” in NY in last few days for protesting genocide against Palestinians in their name. No media is reporting on it.

      • ImFresh3x
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        3
        ·
        1 year ago

        Fuck all these theocratic governments. This is what happens.

      • hassanmckusick@lemmy.discothe.quest
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        1
        arrow-down
        2
        ·
        edit-2
        1 year ago

        No it isn’t. Hamas was founded on the dissolution of Israel but they have no interest in killing Jewish people world wide. They’re not even necessarily interested in killing Jewish people in Israel. They just want the land back.

        The charter does use the word “Jewish” but scholars agree it is interpreted to mean the land and not the peoples

        And the second charter is in favor of a two state solution