Was just thinking that there should be doctor clubs, where a bunch of people pool their money to hire a dedicated general physician. Or to have a shared tailor, or group cafeteria, or whatever.

The ratio of people covered to specialists would probably determine whether it’s feasible. You’d want the specialist to still get paid a healthy (and guaranteed) salary and to have a more satisfying relationship with customers. And the members of the club to get better service / product than they would otherwise with middlemen taking a cut.

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    You have a cite that it’ll cost me less? I have never seen a study that suggest that.

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      All of them actually. The talking point from the right (in the US) is that is will increase debt on the federal level. While this is true, they always leave out the fact that no one will be paying for regular health insurance anymore, which actually costs American tax payers more than what single payer would cost.

      It would be more difficult to find one that disagrees with what I am saying

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        CIte one. I pay 100 a month for my insurance. Cite me where I will pay less under a single payer system.

        Every legitimate cite I have seen says about a 20% tax increase which I am fine with.

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          If you are arguing that we have a lot of folks living in poverty and their taxes might increase a bit I believe that is a bad faith argument.

          If you get health insurance through your employer like most Americans then the employer paid parts will also disappear… but folks are so uninformed that they can’t see it

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            Facts are not bad faith. Pretending it will not cause taxes to increase is just silly, and why we have never been able to get it passed.

            People like the idea until they find out their taxes will go up considerably. I am fine with that but stop trying to be dishonest. The money has to come from some place to fund the system. That means taxes will increase.

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              It’s bad faith to lie about total costs. Period. Our current system leaves tens of millions uninsured (most especially children, and many more millions underinsured.

              United States is a third world country when it comes to health care for the poor.

              Total cost will go down unless you pay basically nothing for health insurance.

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          I doubt you get much of anything for 100$ a month; I have a free plan at work but my employer pays way more than 100 a month for that one… which is a high deductible plan

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            250 dollar deductible. 20-dollar co-pay for specialist. 2250 out pf pocket max. Coinsurance 10%. Emergency room 100 dollars

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              Maybe if you’re on Medicare or you are ina blue state and you are one welfare and completely broke… but that doesn’t add up. You may be forgetting your employer contributions