• @N0body
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    1008 months ago

    I honestly don’t even care anymore. Bethesda peaked at Morrowind.

    • @[email protected]
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      298 months ago

      Yeahhhh, it was a really sad realization for me when I realized elder scolls 6 would no longer be an automatic day one purchase. After Fallout 4, then 76, and now Starfield (which I was skeptical about since they first started its pre-release marketing cycle anyway), I’m realizing that Bethesda is heading in the direction of so many other legacy game companies and just doesn’t seem to be interested in publishing the kinds of games that put them on the map any more; a la Bioware, EA, and Blizzard.

      At least SuckerPunch is still putting out good stuff, as much as I miss the Sly Cooper games 🥲

        • prole
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          28 months ago

          They still do. Probably more now than ever.

      • hiddengoat
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        -418 months ago

        And yet every asswipe with an internet is whining about how Starfield is too much like Bethesda’s other stuff.

        So are they getting too far away, or are they doing the same thing?

        Get with the other dinks and figure it out.

        • @[email protected]
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          178 months ago

          “Hey entire internet, get on the same page already!”

          I hate it when anyone whatsoever disagrees with anything, no matter how unimportant.

          • hiddengoat
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            -218 months ago

            Such incompatible opinions are indicative that one or both camps are full of shit.

              • rurutheguru
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                28 months ago

                They are talking about asswipes having “an internet”. Didn’t know this was possible. They are clearly well informed.

        • @[email protected]
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          168 months ago

          Huh? Chill dude, no need to call names. People are allowed to have their own opinions on a piece of media. I can assure you I’m not part of some kind of Starfield-hating cabal. I just didn’t like it. Sorry.

          • rurutheguru
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            28 months ago

            Have a peek at their comment history. They’re either a troll or an instigator. I blocked them. There’s enough of that shit on reddit.

            • rurutheguru
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              18 months ago

              “Asswipe”, “dinks”. They can read pretty well, don’t you worry about that. Also, quite rich of you saying someone can’t read, when you wrote that people can have “an internet”.

        • Cethin
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          38 months ago

          It all depends on how old you are basically. It shares more blood with Skyrim than it does Oblivion or Morrowind. It’s also procedural, like Daggerfall and Arena, but done poorly. Those had procedural dungeons, while Starfield every dungeon is the same and it’s only the boring open world that changes.

          It’s like their other stuff, but in most of the wrong ways in my opinion. Its got the (lack of) dialog options from FO4… I was going to point out things from other games, but the rest is all generic and applies to all of the modern ones.

          It lacks the player control and agency from Morrowind or earlier that personally I’m looking for. I hope with the success of BG3 they realize they can give players freedom and options and they’ll appreciate it.

      • @[email protected]
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        128 months ago

        I can’t hear you over the sound of falling through the floor of this daggerfall dungeon for the fiftieth time argh

      • @AMillionNames
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        48 months ago

        I’m sorry, wasn’t that the new Arena?

  • @[email protected]
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    528 months ago

    They ain’t wrong. I mean look at Blizzard when they announced Diablo Immortal. If they just opened with a big red firey “IV” and coming soon, with a little 'yes were hard at work on it but it’s too early to show but in the meantime" then did D:I it would have gone over a tad smoother.

    Bethesda did this with Fallout Shelter, doing the Fallout 4 announcement first before going oh btw a few of us did a mobile game on the side. Literally zero blowback from that.

    • @[email protected]
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      78 months ago

      But still best to wait a year or two after release and after modding is baked in because Todd’s “original vision” can be a bit rough.

  • HuddaBudda
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    With Elder Scrolls 6 development out of the concept phase and into full swing,

    They just started development.

    They have also learned some good lessons. However, let us dispel one notion. “Fans” did not cause the announcement 10 years before it’s development.

    Looking at the history, Microsoft bought Bethesda in 2021, and Elder scrolls was announced 2018.

    Which all things considered, is a three year gap.

    Regardless I stand by my conclusion if for the only sake that they would have zero motivation to leak this even if it was just an idea. “Just because of fans.” No CEO thinks like that. At least, none anymore.

    It was shareholders.

    Gamer can wait until the day a good game comes out, a company needs hype to build it’s brand for stock holders.

    Edit:

    But at the time of the announcement, Bethesda wasn’t a publically traded company, they were private, were they not? Which means they weren’t overly beholden to stockholders if I’m not mistaken? I could be totally wrong on that, though.

    Please go down below and congratulations to iheartneopets for pointing out the nose on my face.

    • @[email protected]
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      78 months ago

      But at the time of the announcement, Bethesda wasn’t a publically traded company, they were private, were they not? Which means they weren’t overly beholden to stockholders if I’m not mistaken? I could be totally wrong on that, though.

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        Well I’ll be damned, you are right. Fuck me. Going to have to do another edit.

        Not counting Microsoft deal, because they weren’t bought out until much after the ESVI announcement

    • @[email protected]
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      Gamer can wait until the day a good game comes out, a company needs hype to build it’s brand for stock holders.

      This is absolutely not true, gamers freak out whenever a game is delayed, even for good reason. And people were absolutely causing a huge fuss about whether or not there was going to be an ES6 so they released a teaser to say that it was coming eventually.

      The shareholders would only want them to release the teaser if the goal was the sell stock immediately. Any bump in price from the teaser would even out after probably just a few months.

      • @[email protected]
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        48 months ago

        Waiting + delay ≠ waiting.

        I’ll wait for a good game no problem, but if they push the launch three times I start to twitch

      • @[email protected]
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        28 months ago

        Gamers can cause all the huge fuss they want. It matters nothing to developers.

        And yes shareholders want short term gains. This has been true for a long time.

  • @[email protected]
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    198 months ago

    They did put a pretty massive gap between Skyrim and ES6. Of course, fans will start to wonder, whether anything’s in the pipeline, when it could have realistically been close to release in 2018 already. I guess, they focused on Fallout for a few years, which is a valid decision, but I don’t think, they ever announced that this means ES6 isn’t yet in the works.

    • Cethin
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      48 months ago

      It depends on what you mean by “in the works.” Active development? It probably just started, if it has yet. Pre-production and planning? That’s been going on for a while now.

      • @[email protected]
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        28 months ago

        Well, active development. Especially for TES fans, it may be difficult to grasp why they would not start with TES6 right after the release + bugfixing of Skyrim. Others may understand that they’ll do Fallout 4 in between.

        But doing two Fallouts + Fallout in Space Starfield, it would have deserved a comment from Bethesda.

        • Cethin
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          28 months ago

          Technically, they only did one fallout, but I get your point from the average consumer view. FO76 was done by a different group than the one who’d be working on TES6.

          • @[email protected]
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            28 months ago

            Yeah, I was considering giving that technicality its room, especially because ESO exists. ESO is kind of FO76 in the TES universe.

            But at the same time, ESO wasn’t really what most TES fans hoped for either, so from that average consumer view, it may actually even feel like another project that’s somewhat misguided, while waiting for TES6.

  • @AMillionNames
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    188 months ago

    They seem to be going back to procedural generation for huge landscapes, but if Starfield is any hint of it, they still have their work cut out for them. I wonder, when people click on destinations to reach them instead of riding off to them like they did in Daggerfall, will people still call them out as “loading screens”?

    • @[email protected]
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      78 months ago

      I like the Assassins Creed way, where you can only fast travel to places you’ve discovered already

      • @[email protected]
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        58 months ago

        its the same in skyrim I’m pretty sure. same in starfield (excluding rhe jump mechanic being a form of fast travel anyway but even then you need to visit a system before you can fast travel to individual locations within it directly)

      • prole
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        18 months ago

        Isn’t that most games with fast travel?

  • Altima NEO
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    That announcement made no sense. They literally had nothing to show. Meanwhile, they were also announcing Star Field… Which also had nothing to show.

    They were expecting 76 to be a bigger deal and they were flopping around like a limp fish looking to keep people interested.

  • Paranomaly
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    178 months ago

    It felt it at the time. I also think this was the same time that 76 was revealed? I remember reading that they were trying to boost their value for the incoming Microsoft buyout by getting some live service games on their docket (76, Youngblood, Redfall). As meh as they’ve become, the feeling I had playing Oblivion for the first time is a dragon I don’t think I’ll ever catch again, no matter how much I chase.

    • @[email protected]
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      48 months ago

      Eh, games haven’t been as captivating as they were when I was a teen, but it’s not the games’ fault

  • Zellith
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    168 months ago

    You know what Todd? I don’t believe you. Just admit you fucked up by announcing it too early.

    Specifically, the famous video game director was asked if he regrets announcing the next Elder Scrolls games so early, as it could take another four years before the game is actually released. “I have asked myself that a lot. I don’t know,” admitted Howard. “I probably would’ve announced it more casually.”

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    Then went back to their true focus,
    Microtransactions for Fallout76 and Elder Scrolls Online.

    Just watch, they’ll maintain support for those game well past when they stop updating Starfield

    • @[email protected]
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      118 months ago

      That’s not true, I’m sure they’ll enable raytracing in Starfield special edition in a few years and charge another $60 for the privilege.

    • @[email protected]
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      Look, there’s lots of valid reasons to shit on Bethesda but this comparison isn’t even fair.

      ESO is literally an MMO. It’s a genre of game that’s designed to have a very long life-span with regular content releases, updates and balance changes.

      Starfield is a single player Action RPG. Yes, of course they’ll probably be done adding to it before an entirely different development team that’s dedicated to an MMO is done.

  • @Jax
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    48 months ago

    Great.

    I’m never buying anything Bethesda makes again. But wowee zowee, ES:6 so poggers let’s goooooooooooooo