• EP51L0N
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    all of these cliché relationships where people don’t seem to understand basic forms of communication just confuse me. if you feel this way, tell them! If you don’t like something their doing, say something! this isnt highschool; it’s not a guessing game anymore, it’s people.

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      It’s always high school. Always has been, always will be. After generations of learning how to interact with each other in romantic contexts from media, what do you expect? Especially when we spend our formative years watching media that’s written to appeal to people in their formative years, you end up with a lot of people acting like poorly written characters because that’s how they learned to interact with each other.

      Not to say that our generation is worse than previous generations, of course. Back then dudes didn’t know how to not hit their wives. Now we just don’t know how to talk. A marked improvement, I’d say

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        Back then dudes didn’t know how to not hit their wives.

        A good manny still don’t know, until the wife/gf teach them, usually via reciprocal means. :-/

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      I’m really glad I was able to develop good communication skills in my life of work. When I just started out I made some pretty bad communication errors and I got to see the effects of the errors and learn from my mistakes.

      Pretty much learned from the start to just never assume anything. If it’s important, say it even if you think the other party knows it already. Because at “worst” you just said something obvious but at best you realize there is a communication gap ASAP.

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    Bullshit.

    All gamers ever say is shit like “it’s over here!!”, or “I’m here, dude!! Right over HERE.”

    I’ll tell you, once we all find out where “here” is, the gamers will have nothing left to stop them from world domination.

    Alas, the search continues…

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      There are two types of games. There are games where locations are unnamed, and there’s CSGO, where Hog Dog is an extremely specific place.

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      it’s not a problem in CS at least, just look where he is on the minimap

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      I played PUBG with a mate of mine back in the day. He was awful at communication. “THERE! I SEE SOMEONE!!”, he would shout into my ear after talking about boring stuff like DnD, which he loves. Then he’d die seconds after, and get pissy because I didn’t help him kill the other player.

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      You’ve never heard Goonswarm Comms. Utter chaos until someone utters the word “Check.” Then we all turn into pilots with complete comms silence except the guy calling for help and the fleet commander that gets to jump in to save the dummy.

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      Meanwhile, in Dead By Daylight, people have divided all maps in to numbered zones for this shit. Lazy gonna be lazy. Smart gonna be…

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    everyone going on about how gamers can’t communicate for shit, meanwhile deep rock galactic players INSTANTLY agree that the compressed gold must be pinged unceasingly until management shouts at you, with no verbal communication whatsoever.

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    In houndreds or public matches I’ve played in CS over the years, maybe like 10 had teammates who all actually used callouts

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      I used to solo-queue almost exclusively. Almost always every teammate communicated. This was like 5+ years ago though, so maybe things have changed. I also frequently initiated the communication and kept things going and didn’t get mad at people, so that all helps too. From my experience, be nice and communicate and general the same will be returned, but against this was a while ago.

      (I’m assuming CS is Counter Strike, and not like competitive multiplayer Cities Skylines or something.)

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        (I’m assuming CS is Counter Strike, and not like competitive multiplayer Cities Skylines or something.)

        “Natural disaster, meteor from northwest, prepare fire fighters!”

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      I’ve been exclusively queueing Office since CS2 dropped and most people know the call outs. Idk what it is about that particular map. (Dust2 is okay too)

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      I could never figure out the built in callouts… Anytime I played with the bots in CS:GO, they would always do callouts and I’m pretty sure they’re just baked in, but I have no idea where, or how to use them.

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        Those are displayed on your minimap. Some of them are used by players, and players will know what you mean anyway, but most position calls by players are different from those. They’re also frequently regional, so there can be many calls for a single position. They’re pretty much always one or two syllables, and usually there’s a few similar ones that appear on many maps. Cat, for example, is any catwalk (the most important one on the map if there are multiple). Heaven/Hell is any raised or lowered area respectively, usually with Hell just below Heaven.

        You just have to listen to people and ask if you don’t know them, maybe also watch some professional matches as the casters also usually use the most common calls for that language.

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    As someone who has played ranked FPS’ since… they existed (sigh), and the number of times I had a male teammate throw a tantrum and then refuse to make callouts is… Probably in the hundreds. From QTF to CS to TF2 to Apex…

    During a CAL-im match, Dan? Really, Dan?

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      Oh yeah, even with friends. Everyone in my discord has had a good sook at the others. “I thought you were with me!” proceed to scatter like cats yet again with everyone ‘leading’

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      QTF

      we got a fossil over here

      (I’m too young to have played Quake when multiplayer was a thing ;-; but I do speedrun it)

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          I’ve tried it and I had a lot of fun with it at release, but the queue times for matchmaking got unreal (pun intended) pretty quick. I mainly play Half-Life and Quake Live now but it’s not quite the same

          (but HL1’s multiplayer is the bomb tbh, just a lot of servers are dead)

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            Yep, I have very fond memories of HL1 multiplayer, also there were SO many HL1 mods that were just incredibly fun.

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      This was more “guys bad. Nuh, uh, girls bad.” Everyone getting dunked on in this one.

      Maybe it was the communication issues we gained along the way.

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      It’s a response in kind to a equally dumb comment.

      The original comment is massively generalist so the response is equally generalist.

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        I don’t know, I read the original meaning, believe they’re capable, in rebuke to the stereotype men just *can’t do anything, so don’t even try, like they’re incapable toddlers, or something. To me it was a cheeky way of taking a shot at that thinking, that men aren’t capable.

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    i’ve been in relationships where someone passive-aggressively refuses to communicate (or simply through incompetence doesn’t know how, and/or came to believe that I was supposed to already intuitively know their position and condition)

    One such relationship recently ended on thankfully good terms.

    One such relationship was years ago and never quite got off the ground because I was NOT going to play along with the stupid games.

    Several others got up through the initial courtship phases but then disintegrated as I realized that my partner at the time was not going to engage me on an honest basis.

    These people are real. They’re really out there. And they’re either destined to be vaguely miserable forever, or someone is going to have to teach them and make them intensely miserable in the immediacy until they learn - and not many people have the patience or psychological energy to guide someone (who is kicking and screaming objections about how they shouldn’t have to change or grow or adapt because they’re special and perfect just as they are) through establishing a basic understanding of communication.

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      When people are adults, it’s their job to learn the things and seek the knowledge and self improve. That thinking that you can save someone, that one will always get you in hot water. You just focus on improving you. And leaving the drift wood behind.