• shrugal@lemm.ee
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    1 year ago

    Wtf, no she doesn’t?! I don’t need to know the details of how guns are named to see the effects they have. It’s like saying you can only criticize someone running over people with a car if you can name the manufacturer’s home country, completely absurd.

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      No, it’s like pushing for horse-drawn carriage control because people in cars are speeding, or like saying there’s a butter-knife loophole around sword bans.

      It’s fucking important to know about the things you’re trying to legislate, and knowing that an AR-15 isn’t an assault rifle is such a basic bit of information.

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        It would be like banning hysterectomy as treatment for anyone who isn’t certifiably hysterical.

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        The AR in AR-15 may stand for Armalite, but an AR-15 is still an assault rifle.

        The U.S. Army defines assault rifles as "short, compact, selective-fire weapons that fire a cartridge intermediate in power between submachine gun and rifle cartridges.

        And

        …examples of intermediate cartridges are the 7.92×33mm Kurz, the 7.62×39mm and 5.56×45mm NATO.

        • 2nsfw2furious@lemmynsfw.com
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          1 year ago

          AR-15 is not selective fire. That means fully automatic, something that is already effectively banned in the USA.

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            What? No.

            Fully automatic means when you hold the trigger it keeps shooting until the magazine is empty. Semi automatic means every time you pull the trigger a round is discharged. Some AR-15 platform scary black guns allow you to choose between these settings, some dont because they are only semi automatic. As far as I am aware there is no burst setting on a stock AR-15 which would fall in between those options.

            As a super liberal who happens to own a scary black gun (and several others) please stop making us look like idiots and learn the difference.

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              Select fire is a weapon that can do full auto and semi auto. In other words, colloquially a full auto rifle. No AR-15s for the civilian market today are select fire or burst fire. Buying a new select fire or full auto rifle has been extremely illegal at the federal level for literal decades, as would be turning your semiautomatic into a select fire (without heavy duty federal licensing at a minimum)

              Maybe you should learn the difference?

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                I think what you mean to say is “I’m sorry, my first comment is hilariously structurally ambiguous”.

                “AR is not XXX. That means full auto.” By which you meant “XXX means full auto”. Unfortunately, written as two sentences that’s not how it reads.

                You might be better at guns than written English it turns out.

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                  I think it was pretty clear.

                  The AR-15 is not selective fire. A gun that is selective fire can fire full auto or at least single trigger pull burst.

                • 2nsfw2furious@lemmynsfw.com
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                  Lol I think you mean “sorry I misread.” Imagine being that bad at context and blaming the writing. Sure I could’ve been more explicit but most people can handle a single ambiguous pronoun in a comment chain without writing a whole salty comment about how wrong one clearly contextually incorrect interpretation is. You’re what’s wrong with the liberal gun community.