did i say mildly i meant want to nuke it from orbit

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    The irony is that these puzzles, while designed to stop bot spam/fake registrations, are actually used to train AI/computer vision to be better… thus, creating the need for even more infuriating puzzles to be “solved” by humans.

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    At least yours is a low number. I had to do some with numbers like “37”. I had to solve 64 of these to talk to PlayStation billing support. It wasn’t mildly infuriating, it was enraging. They made me do 16 of them, and then just took me back to the same page as if I hadn’t solved any at all. Then I had to do 16 of them again to be told that support was offline. Then the next day I did 16 more to be told support was offline, so I tried it in chrome instead of Firefox and had to do 16 more to be given a phone number to call, which I had to hold on for 67 minutes before I could talk to someone about a refund for a mistake on my billing. That type of dark pattern “fuck you” practice should be illegal. Fuck Sony.

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      The part of your story where you had to eventually switch to Chrome got me, because that’s me every fucking time. These monsterous companies aren’t just using captcha wrong (or right if they’re evil), they’re also all-in on chromium supremacy because why support more than one standard? And here I am, forty captcha deep wondering if I’m about to pop a god damned hidden achievement for persistence in an impossible task.

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    I was trying to book a trip through a travel website, after the 3rd tedious captcha I ended up using another site. I get it, the bot vs captcha war is getting crazy but if your website is unusable then i’m not going to use it.

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    I don’t think the average person understands how advanced bots have become at bypassing captchas now. Users will see this and be upset, and understandably so, but I’m telling you there is a big problem right now and devs are having trouble keeping up.

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      That’s nice, they should think about average people with learning disabilities and how hard it is for them to keep up.

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        Yeah, but, there’s probably not any way to make this easier while still stopping bots. Either they do no captcha and you can’t compete with all the non-humans using whatever service, or they do this. Pick your poison.

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            I did. Really, it’s a binary choice. Uncomfortably hard captcha, or no captcha. Ineffective captcha wastes everyone’s time.

            Maybe you have an idea for one that will still be effective while being easier, but I don’t, and apparently they, the professionals, don’t either. Until such a system surfaces, this is it.

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              Numerical processing disorders are fairly common and it will be interesting watching devs handle class action lawsuits when they make captchas so difficult for a portion of the population that they effectively get locked out. This isn’t a difficult concept, and they can come up with something better than this. Your responses ignore the reality for disabled individuals.

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                and they can come up with something better than this

                I bet they can’t. Soon enough they probably are just going to have to accept some users will be bots.

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                  If that’s the reality so be it, but making existing accounts and services inaccessible to those with processing disorders will likely be even worse for them in the long run if they keep turning out these kind of captchas.

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      The acceleration I’m seeing now makes me think we’ve reached a terminal point. There will be no way to tell humans from bots quickly, cheaply and anonymously soon, and services will just have to adapt or die.

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      Google’s approach of just monitoring your behaviour in the browser is still the most humane and it pisses me off that you literally have to serve all your data to them so they can even decide to serve you with their ads.

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    I personally never met this CAPTCHA, but my friend did during our phone call. It was utterly hilarious to hear him slowly going mad to the point of screaming at the computer. I was laughing my ass off. This is too dystopian to be true.

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    Wait… am I misunderstanding this or are they asking you to just sit there and roll dice till you get all ones on 5 D6’s?

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      so there’s the number on the left and then on the right you have to use the arrows to scroll through until you find the picture with the dice that add up to the number on the left so you basically have to do maths like 10 times in a row there’s not a set number of dice, i think - i can’t remember but i think that one was like a 1, a 1, a 2, and a 1 or something.

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        Ah, okay.

        So it’s just a “find the right picture” rather than “roll dice till you get a roll of five”. That’s still annoying, but a lot less insane.

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          It’s “provide is with reinforcement learning data to train AI’s how to read numbers in an image.”

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            Remember when captchas were supposed to protect from bots, not train them? I 'member…

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          It’s not less insane. Some of the puzzles will have huge double digit numbers, and they make you solve multiple puzzles to progress. Sony makes you solve 16 of these before barely moving your customer service request forward and delaying you further.

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        It’s interesting how some people just can’t communicate concisely

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    Seriously, what asshole came up with this? Some of us have trouble processing numbers.

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    What type of dice has a mix of pips and numerals?

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    Weird - I see a lot of comments about how this is some evolution in the war of bots vs CAPTCHA, but I have come across this once, and it was many years ago. I just assumed it was a weird small captcha company that was doing their own thing

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    That’s definitely a new one in the AI v. Captcha arms race, and it’s only going to get worse from here. Build a better sword, need a better shield.