• Varyk
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    BS radar going off.

    I’ve never talked to anyone whose grades got them their first, or any job. What are these first jobs that they needed grades for?

    Especially relevant since it’s about half of all jobs have anything to do with what you studied in college.

    And yes, you can absolutely become a doctor with Cs, grades aren’t as important as your teachers told you.

    Also, software devs? I know one business owner and several software engineers who went to code camp, none of them credit their success to their grades.

    Software development is the perfect example of a career in which grades are completely irrelevant.

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      Like I said, preselected. All my friends are lawyers, engineers and software devs.

      You are not becoming a doctor without passing the MCAT or regional equivalent. You are not passing that without being at least being proficient at all your undergrad classes.

      Anyway, believe what you want, it doesn’t matter to me. We live in a society, and that society rewards good grades. They don’t matter forever, they matter for the next step.

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        MCATs, LSATs, CDL licensing and similar exams determine practical training and experience.

        Your grades do not prohibit you from taking these entrance exams.

        Grades do not matter forever, temporarily, or for the “next step”, they’re arbitrary value judgments that you became convinced mattered regardless of the evidence to the contrary.

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            I understand you really want to keep changing the goalposts from the original topic of irrelevant high school grades to program-specific required university courses and now pretending that practical on-hands training and experience is the same as your score on a geology quiz, but they’re not.

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              I clearly enunciated how each stage is related to the next, and no further.

              You asked for anecdotes and I gave em. You asked for industry specifics and I gave em.

              You clearly aced this, stick the landing by not replying, if you can

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                Making up what happened isn’t going to convince anyone who knows how to scroll up.

                Grades are irrelevant. You can’t disprove that, so you changed the argument to include limited anecdotes that also don’t correspond to reality(software devs do not, by any stretch of the imagination, need good grades) and by pretending that driving a truck and practicing maneuvers for hours to gain training and experience for a career is the same as a high school quiz nobody will ever ask you about(it is not).

                I countered your misguided cherry-picked implications with objective facts by sticking to the original point, that grades are fake and school is BS.

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                  F

                  I’ve multiple times described the focus, and details of my argument…you’ve only "nuh uh"ed.

                  The WHOLE WORLD uses grades to measure progress, and regularly uses grades to gate entry to further, more specific opportunities. Exceptions do not make this untrue, and often those exceptions have their own internal standards they hold members to.

                  My “bullshit detector” signals you are an angry student, disillusioned with your curriculum.

                  Do you math homework bud, it sucks but it’s better than taking to me.

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                    Many institutions use grades, certainly not the whole world. Maybe you missed my examples of code camp, LSATs, or you’ve never heard of vocational schools.

                    Grades are common, but being common does not make grades useful or relevant except to perpetuate the system of contemporary traditional academia.

                    Your detector is as incorrectly wired as your flawed assumptions about the relevance of grades.