• HANN
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    6 months ago

    But corporations hold each other accountable. They have to compete for your trust. If corporation A does something shady then it’s im their competitors interest to call them out in order to raise people’s trust in themselves. There are also countless charities and third party sites to grade them. I can choose which programs I fund. I don’t get any say in what government gets my taxes or what the government does with my taxes. What if I don’t want to fund war but want my money to go to charity to help the poor? How effective is universal healthcare where you are?

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      6 months ago

      Wow, you seriously still believe that corporations compete with eachother in the healthcare sector despite the fact that most insurance companies have a “network” specifically so that they don’t have to compete with eachother? How is healthcare a competitive market that drives towards efficiency exactly? The more you privatise healthcare the lower life expectancy you get and the higher you all pay!

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      6 months ago

      93% of stocks are owned by just 10% of people… They own all the companies, and are diversified… They aren’t really competing with each other in any meaningful way

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        6 months ago

        Then don’t shop at those companies? Go buy produce at your local farmers market etc etc. You get to choose what you spend money on. Or you can start your own business if you feel there is a market gap. You cant start your own government.

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          The reason the government is garbage is because most of them are working for the corporations. If we heavily regulated the corporations and made it so they couldn’t interfere with politics, the government would be better… They’d actually be working for the people and our interests, like they’re supposed to

          The problem isn’t government, it’s corporate control of the government

          Privatizing things will always cost more because then you need to account for profits as well. Publicly controlled=x cost, privately controlled=x costs+profit for the rich

          Even the most corrupt government employee is only getting a pay check (no profits). They make their corruption money by colluding with corporations and rich people

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            If we acknowledge that politicians are on the side of corporations then the logical conclusion is to take away power from politicians. Giving them more power is just more motivation for corporations to meddle in government. It’s not government vs corporations it’s government+corporations vs the people. America consistency votes to strengthen government which just takes power away from the people. The only way to fight back is to lower gov power and take back our freedom of choice.

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            I agree the corporate lobbies are a problem. But giving the government more power just gives the lobbies more power too. We see that with insurance companies lobbying to make certain procedures mandatory. The solution is to take away government power. Then the corporations have no reason to lobby the government.

            Publicly controlled = x costs + profit for politicians.

            It’s a wash either way. Plus, when the government program runs a deficit the government has to print money to avoid debt which equals inflation and we all know how that hurts.

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          I should go to my local farmer’s market to sign up for Internet service, or to buy a cell phone? The big industries are so heavily dominated by massive colluding corporations that “don’t shop there” is not a tenable solution.

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            Internet service is a valid problem and I’m with you there. But those other examples all have alternatives. Dont like apple/Samsung there are dozens of alternatives like OnePlus or RealMe. Don’t like Verizon/att go with mint or visible or ting. You have options. Don’t get discouraged.

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          Most people are not “free” enough under current system to shop at farmers markets haha

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            6 months ago

            Less taxes would help ;)

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              Less taxes would mean they would be even less free to go shopping in a farmers market. No more buses, toll roads everywhere, forget about bike lanes.

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      But corporations hold each other accountable. They have to compete for your trust.

      Yes, but only if there is competition. In an anti-competitive market (thus a non-capitalist system), this balance breaks.