Yeah around here we pay for it if we were gonna like rent a cabin or something at the state park but it’s literally a govt service so it’s free to just like go there and hang out… very surprised to hear that isn’t the case everywhere.
Not if you have a library card!
But the fees go to help keep them clean and well maintained, which they need more when they’re used more. Of course they also get funding directly from taxes.
Places like parks and libraries are places where you can expect to go without the expectation of paying money. If I visit as a person from out of town I shouldn’t have to go get a library card to get into a park for free in my opinion.
One use of the taxes is to preserve the beauty and make it available to everyone except where it’s too fragile.
A lot of the regulations exist to mitigate the evils caused by massive concentrations of humans, like air pollution.
But hey, you go ahead and stay where you are. That’ll keep a place open for another of the many people who move away, experience life in those other states, and then come home again.
It’s weird how you want the beauty, but don’t seem to understand how it stays that way.
It’s maintenance. It’s user fees to fund maintenance.
You may think that’s socialist, but really it’s not. Proper socialism would be a portion of income tax being allocated toward funding a maintained park without added user fees for residents.
It’s usually cheaper overall for people using the park, but people who don’t use the park complain about their taxes being used to foot the bill; the same as they complain about paying for fire protection service they don’t use.
Libraries don’t charge me, that’s the beauty of it. I can exist there with or without a library card. Drink water, use the bathroom, read all day etc. The taxes pay for the maintenance and resources.
Can’t taxes pay for state park maintenance behind the scenes the same way rather than charging at the door? I get they want money from visitors using the park but there’s things like fuel taxes and hotel taxes and campground fees that could pay into that too. I don’t know what the actual fee for entry would be but still I think that having a fee to exist in nature feels kind of dystopian to me idk.
Prefer to spend your time outdoors? I’m not sure about other states and countries, but in CA your library card can get you free entry to state parks!
https://www.parks.ca.gov/?page_id=30806
You have to pay for State Parks in Cali? That’s absurd
state parks often do, they are usually on the honor system and require you to put money in an envelope and put it in a drop box
Yeah around here we pay for it if we were gonna like rent a cabin or something at the state park but it’s literally a govt service so it’s free to just like go there and hang out… very surprised to hear that isn’t the case everywhere.
Not if you have a library card! But the fees go to help keep them clean and well maintained, which they need more when they’re used more. Of course they also get funding directly from taxes.
Unfortunately, this is only true for a (substantial) subset of state parks. I wish they were all participating, but they’re not.
Why do you think its absurd?
Places like parks and libraries are places where you can expect to go without the expectation of paying money. If I visit as a person from out of town I shouldn’t have to go get a library card to get into a park for free in my opinion.
There are states that don’t charge for state parks?
Our library let’s you borrow free passes to different museums and attractions in the area.
The more I learn about Cali’s laws and taxes the less I want to live there, which sucks because the landscape can be so beautiful
One use of the taxes is to preserve the beauty and make it available to everyone except where it’s too fragile.
A lot of the regulations exist to mitigate the evils caused by massive concentrations of humans, like air pollution.
But hey, you go ahead and stay where you are. That’ll keep a place open for another of the many people who move away, experience life in those other states, and then come home again.
Don’t get me wrong even if I wouldn’t go there long term Cali is still on the visit list, it’s just a matter of time and opportunity
It’s weird how you want the beauty, but don’t seem to understand how it stays that way.
It’s maintenance. It’s user fees to fund maintenance.
You may think that’s socialist, but really it’s not. Proper socialism would be a portion of income tax being allocated toward funding a maintained park without added user fees for residents.
It’s usually cheaper overall for people using the park, but people who don’t use the park complain about their taxes being used to foot the bill; the same as they complain about paying for fire protection service they don’t use.
Libraries don’t charge me, that’s the beauty of it. I can exist there with or without a library card. Drink water, use the bathroom, read all day etc. The taxes pay for the maintenance and resources.
Can’t taxes pay for state park maintenance behind the scenes the same way rather than charging at the door? I get they want money from visitors using the park but there’s things like fuel taxes and hotel taxes and campground fees that could pay into that too. I don’t know what the actual fee for entry would be but still I think that having a fee to exist in nature feels kind of dystopian to me idk.
Pls keep learning 😛
Ya room for improvement. Absurdly amazing when everything’s good (you have money near the coast but not near wildfires)