Exactly. Yes, firebombing Dresden wasn’t exactly the height of civility, but neither was invading all of fucking Europe and murdering millions upon millions of civilians.
Similarly, Ukraine isn’t a country full of saints, but they’re not currently commiting genocide in a country they occupied by force.
And overall, the end goal is an end to war crimes. Is it bad when Russia does it? Yes. Is it bad if Ukraine does it? Yes. Is it bad when the allies do it? Yes. And so on. Anyone who says anything else, fuck them.
The end goal is to end the war. Its unreasonable to expect someone to play fair (not commit war crimes) when there is an advantaged force invading their country with the goal of total destruction committing war crimes against them weekly. Ukraine should do everything in their power to stop them and not feel restricted by international law. International law has done nothing to protect them.
War crimes means killing children, torturing innocent people. You can fight a fierce war without committing war crimes. In fact it means a more effective fight, because you’re not turning the souls of the people who are doing the fighting away from the fight you are asking them to do.
Committing war crimes also proves the enemy’s propaganda of your own forces true, and greatly decreases the chance the enemy will be willing to surrender or be convinced to defect since you really are the monsters they were told you were.
Yeah. A whole lot of human conduct, even in war or in authoritarian regimes, is what people want to do. If you’re setting up something that you need to have happen that every fiber of someone’s being is telling them not to do (or the opposite, engaging every fiber of your enemies’ being in opposing you), then God help you in the long run.
Exactly. Yes, firebombing Dresden wasn’t exactly the height of civility, but neither was invading all of fucking Europe and murdering millions upon millions of civilians.
Similarly, Ukraine isn’t a country full of saints, but they’re not currently commiting genocide in a country they occupied by force.
And overall, the end goal is an end to war crimes. Is it bad when Russia does it? Yes. Is it bad if Ukraine does it? Yes. Is it bad when the allies do it? Yes. And so on. Anyone who says anything else, fuck them.
The end goal is to end the war. Its unreasonable to expect someone to play fair (not commit war crimes) when there is an advantaged force invading their country with the goal of total destruction committing war crimes against them weekly. Ukraine should do everything in their power to stop them and not feel restricted by international law. International law has done nothing to protect them.
War crimes means killing children, torturing innocent people. You can fight a fierce war without committing war crimes. In fact it means a more effective fight, because you’re not turning the souls of the people who are doing the fighting away from the fight you are asking them to do.
Committing war crimes also proves the enemy’s propaganda of your own forces true, and greatly decreases the chance the enemy will be willing to surrender or be convinced to defect since you really are the monsters they were told you were.
Yeah. A whole lot of human conduct, even in war or in authoritarian regimes, is what people want to do. If you’re setting up something that you need to have happen that every fiber of someone’s being is telling them not to do (or the opposite, engaging every fiber of your enemies’ being in opposing you), then God help you in the long run.