• idefix
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    I’m 45+ and French. This seems very misleading as smoking has been declining a lot the past couple decades.

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      Did it actually? I remember going to france like twice a year like 30 years ago. And my observation was just: everyone smokes.

      When the indoor smoking ban started, i felt like people stopped. Same as over here. But now i feel like at least as many people atarted smoking again. But i haven’t really been in france again in the last 10 years.

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        Between 2000 and 2019 the number of cigarettes sold in France has halved.

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          Wtf? How much are people spending to smoke these days??

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            They spend to finance there tabacco dealer a bi-yearly trip to the border. I don’t trust this type of graph. Every smoker I know buy most of his consomption from a friend buying it in bulk over the border. And it’s a 6 hours round trip. Not the next town.

            But also the taxe do reduce their consomption.

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              6 hours to me is the next town (of any size), and the sort of thing one would do every other weekend. How do the French see it? Is that considered an annual trip distance?

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                Metropolitan France is a very urbanised country and not that big. I don’t think there is a single places that would required more than 3 hours trip to a town. And even for 3 hours would be for small but hard to make distances like going down from very deeps in the montains trought very small roads.
                In 3 hours to the frontier, you drive over 300 km. The people I know that go to Luxembourg to buy tabacco in Bulk go every 2-3 months tops.

                A 3 hours trips is not that long but you have to drive all the way. There is no realistic planes, trains or buses options. That’s not something you do when have every things you need much closer and no real other reason to cross the border. For regular people a trip to Luxembourg or Belgium (slightly longer the same driving time) would be a once-in-a-year vacation weekend. It is different in parts of France when there is trains. Trips are more commun, less tiring, much more pratical.

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        This is an official statistic from Germany, but I guess it will be similar for France. Red is female, blue is male.

        Source

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        Yeah it really shifted, still way too many people smoking but vaping + price hike did some good.

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      I could quit smoking for 20 years but if you were to offer me a Gauloises blue or a gitane I would light it up in a heartbeat

      French cigarettes are delicious, just like the cuisine. (And they pair very well)

      Smokes in Australia have added flame retardent that make a night and day difference, but I suppose that’s a silver lining as an ex-smoker

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        Only smoking Virginia tobacco is boring, if I were to smoke I would try Cavendish, Lakatia, and other more spicy and interesting varieties and blends of the plant.

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      What’s the smoking rate like? In the US, it’s pretty much non-existent in public and only done by old people stuck in their ways.

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        In 2022, an estimated 16.4 million people (8.4 million males and 8.0 million females) aged 15 years and older were tobacco product users in France. This positions the country as the 14th globally and the 3rd in the WHO European Region in terms of number of tobacco users.

        And as someone who works in the service business, I can confirm that there’s a decent amount of smokers.

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        I don’t have stats with me and in very much biased by my experience. Around me, less than 20% smoke but I believe it’s anecdotal.