Should sh.itjust.works preemptively defederate from Threads?

Threads is the not-so-new reddit-like twitter-like public forum platform by Meta, the same commercial company behind internet behemoths like Facebook, Instagram and Whatsapp. They’re working on ActivityPub integration so that they can bridge (federate?) with the fediverse. As far as I know, the focus is on Mastodon instances, but in the future that could include Lemmy instances too.

Some have raised the question, worried about the future of the fediverse or even claiming that it goes against its definition.

What do you think should be done?

EDIT: correction

EDIT.2: The Vote is on! Go make your voice heard. You have until Friday the 29th.

Fediverse instances’ status on federation with Threads

  • AbackDeckWARLORDEnglish
    83·
    11 months ago

    I don’t get the point of pre-emptively de-federating. This would allow lemmy to have a wider reach amongst a general audience rather than be a niche community. We should only defederate after seeing if it’s a problem or not to be federated with them.

    • pelespirit
      31·
      11 months ago

      What are the concrete reasons a wider reach would be better? Are there any other reasons why it would be better to have them or not?

      • AbackDeckWARLORDEnglish
        61·
        11 months ago

        It offers a completely different perspective than what people on lemmy provide, which is usually people in the tech sector. So many smaller subreddits exist on reddit because of it’s wider reach. Look at [email protected] for example, the last post in “hot” was from a month ago, current numbers on lemmy just can’t sustain smaller subs like that.

        • pelespirit
          21·
          11 months ago

          I don’t mean this in a rude way, but shouldn’t you hang there then?

          • AbackDeckWARLORDEnglish
            5·
            11 months ago

            I mean by that logic no one should be using lemmy then, we all should stay on Reddit. This instance was created due to Reddit corporate greed, not because Reddit had “normies”

            • pelespirit
              31·
              11 months ago

              Your logic seems to be:

              • I want all of threads content - Which we won’t get because they can just look at us, not interact with us currently. Also, what content? It’s going to be pretty bad.
              • I want all of the users to come in -Our instances are small and can be overwhelmed easily. They will do that easily just looking at it, it might end up being a constant ddos.

              My logic

              • provide more content for people to look at for a year or two and then think about letting the companies like Meta in, who are known to be evil
              • we don’t know how they plan to fuck with the fediverse, they are planning it though
      • starman2112
        41·
        11 months ago

        Here’s my low int take: more people means more discussions, which is the whole reason we use this service in the first place

    • CancerMancer
      42·
      11 months ago

      We’ve seen this multiple times before. This will not give Lemmy/Mastodon/whatever more reach, it will connect us to the metaverse and then after we have invested in it they will pull the rug. This is classic big tech vs OSS, using EEE to attack the competition.

      Good news is this means they see us as a threat

      • starman2112
        5·
        11 months ago

        I don’t see how they can get us invested in something that they can take away. The whole point of this system is that each instance fundamentally does not rely on a third party, right?

        • pelespirit
          42·
          11 months ago

          Do you really want to be the one testing how they’re going to fuck with the system? This instance didn’t update to .19 because they wanted the bugs out. I don’t think we know yet how much and how hard meta is going to try and use our system and/or break it.

    • Barbarian
      32·
      11 months ago

      Completely agree. If it is really an issue, we can always defederate later.