• astral_avocado@lemm.ee
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    11 months ago

    Let’s not pretend we’re in any better of a situation. Same exact thing could happen on any Lemmy server, especially since each server is a small fiefdom run by randos.

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      It’s already happening. People with no clue what they’re talking about starting fights

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        11 months ago

        Like when people start commenting on the near-east conflict. Hardly anyone knows what the fuck is going on there yet we find many experts on the topic in the comments.

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          Self-propelled multipurpose couch “EXPERT”

          • Crew: 1-6 strategists

          (or 8 if not too fat)

          • TOP SECRET!

          Fuel tank

          24*0.5l, 2500 comments on full tank. Possible installation of additional tank.

          Air bag[safety pillow]

          Optical caterpillars

          Provide speed up to 100Mbps

          Teflon seat for couch driver

          Protects pillow from combusting

          Containers of dynamic protection against enemy cat

          Missle silo cover

          Three couch-internet missles

          Can hit/penetrate to the soul any opponent

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          I don’t think this is wrong. I’ve learned so much talking shit. I even use talking shit as a mechanism to learn.

          I talk shit -> someone corrects me -> I learned something new. The person feels great because they corrected someone.

          It’s like a free lesson and everyone wins.

          Even people who didn’t know shit, like me, get to read someone beating my ass with arguments, and they also learn.

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            But if nobody knows much of anything on the matter, how can anyone be sure they’re being corrected and learning anything? 🤔

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            That is a nice, refreshing and honest view. If I’m being honest with myself, this happened to me very often as well.

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          “please stop fighting and get along” is my fundamental take on most wars. It’s not particularly useful, but it helps me split the average soldier from the average “leader” that sent them to die.

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      11 months ago

      But 4chan tho is a good place for factually informed discussion. Mr Greentext has it all figured out.

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      11 months ago

      No kidding. I got downvoted a dozen times because I mentioned that diet and practices help with sun burns and sunscreen isn’t the win all against the sun. I didn’t post sources right away, but when I did the hive has made up it’s mind.

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        I’ll recuse myself from giving you an up vote or down vote but I’ll make a suggestion. Maybe provide the proof when you make the comment, especially on a topic that might be controversial or have health risks.

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          Why did I need to provide sources on the comment above? Are people really curious on how diet can help your skin defend against the sun? Then let’s have a discussion I’ll post my sources. But my comment then was just in conversation, adding that diet helps, and if people wanted to know more I’ll show. I’m not going to start off every comment with a research paper worth of citations.

          But above I’m arguing that there’s a hive mind mentality, and my source is my downvotes. I’m just hoping lemmy doesn’t cater to the more “popular” comments because that’s how an echo chamber turns into an information swamp. Just because something is more popular does not make it necessarily correct. I’m not responsible for people to think outside of themselves.

          And before people rail against the lack of a blue link for them to hit because of something that has nothing to do with the conversation we’re having here now, here. Click below. It’s not controversial to believe what you put in your body has an effect on how your skin is built, and that can help with sun burns.

          I am, on the other hand absolutely not saying that some vitamins have the same protection that a sunscreen does. Which it seems what the downvotes are for. Since I can’t see why people would be upset to know how diet can affect your skin’s ability to defend against radiations.

          https://www.skincancer.org/blog/can-your-diet-help-prevent-skin-cancer/

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            Since I can’t see why people would be upset to know how diet can affect your skin’s ability to defend against radiations.

            A lot of your downvotes probably come from people misinterpreting your message as some woo woo bunk about replacing sunscreen with a proper diet and you won’t get sunburned, which clearly isn’t what you’re saying. However, its very easy for small, flippant comments to come across with wildly different connotations from the reader. Not really sure how to get around that, outside of way too much context.

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              Yeah, outside of way too much context. Reddit created a mentality where you have to comment a certain way, and only certain comments get seen. It’s self fulfilling in teaching how to talk. “reddiquite” lol

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            You make a valid point about sources when making a random throwaway comment.

            Thanks for the link, I see what you mean about what we eat affecting our skin and it makes perfect sense. You’re right that it’s not your responsibility for other people to think outside of themselves but you could be a catalyst for it, which is something I strive for.

            I like to give people the tools for them to think about any given topic and in real life I’ll often even say that I don’t want a reply to a question I posit them. I find people might be more truthful to themselves if they don’t feel the need to justify themselves to me.

            I think your comment was probably misconstrued as you saying that sunscreen is useless and it’s all about diet when you obviously didn’t say nor mean that. I admit on first read I misread it that way as well and was curious about your stance. Thanks for having a conversation with me bud, hope you have a lovely day.

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            People need to start eating healthier in general, but they feel like they’re having their boundaries stepped all over when people tell them that. That’s one of the reasons you got downvoted probably.

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              Sucks to be told that you can’t eat crap, as well as knowing that americas medical system tries solving symptoms, not the root problem. But that’s the individuals responsibility. Americas medicine isn’t going to take care of you.

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          Settle down. I’m talking about people getting upset on a comment without acknowledging authenticity. The downvote and how a comment is buried or promoted is probably the worst thing reddit has manufactured. It’s what the post is about. And what the comment I replied to is that it’s happening here at lemmy

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            11 months ago

            “These things are bad because I can’t make objectively wrong statements without being told so”

            Bro is a damn toddler

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            just sounds to me like youre a kid and you give too much worth to a karma system.
            Link the comment, maybe you didn’t deserve it but to me you just sound like a wiseguy.
            Diet doesn’t replace sunscreen.

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              I could care less about any of these systems, other than say it’s not flowing towards equitable information. You thinking I’m saying diet replaces sunscreen shows you’re not processing it.

              We’re not discussing sun screen, and I’m old. Take what you want.