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Being a damned fool isn’t a protected class.
Yeah, this is basically an attempt to turn “I’m the one creating a hostile work environment by promoting hate” into a protected class.
Have you heard about Donald trump? Last I checked, he’s still not in jail and he’s a fucking bag of sand.
Except if you’re rich.
If Elon Musk is looking for more money pits to throw cash into, baseless law suits against Disney is certainly the way to go.
Yeah, he basically managed to find one of the few entities that’s sitting on a pile of money bigger than his.
Richest man in America and this is what he spends money on.
Yeah. Isn’t Thiel notorious for SLAPP suits?
sure, but in the case of gawker, it wasn’t a slapp, and they won, and gawker was ruined, their entire staff laid off, and sold off for pennies
How can she SLAPP‽‽
And The New Yorker still sucks his dick at the end of the article.
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Gina Carano’s lawsuit, filed on Tuesday, seeks a court order forcing Disney and Lucasfilm to weave her “Mandalorian” character back into the show and recast her for the role.
lol - They love ‘free’ speech so much, they want to force you to speak!
This is called “specific performance” when a court orders you to do a specific thing. It is really rarely done because a court strongly prefers to award monetary damages - forcing people to do a specific thing can start to infringe on their rights
/1. EXT DAY
CARA DUNE’S ship lands awkwardly crushing a SIGN that reads, “CAUTION MINE FIELD”
DUNE Hey Mando—
A LAND MINE detonates, killing her instantly. The camera pulls back to reveal a fake cardboard cutout of THE MANDALORIAN
The camera zooms out and up from the explosion into the atmosphere Cut to
/2. EXT DAY [IN SPACE]
A meteor zips past our point of view and smashes into the planet, destroying it completely.
INTRO CREDIT ROLL
I collect irony and Elon funding a labor dispute is a rare treat.
Funding a conspiracy theorist isn’t so unexpected
So she was fired for discrimination, and is now suing on the basis of being discriminated against? Did I get that right? The concept of irony just goes right over these people’s heads, doesn’t it?
“Preventing oppression is the real oppression” is a standard part of US right-wing dialog right now.
Ugh is that an actual quote from one of these nutjobs? It really embodies just how backwards they are.
No, but it’s easy to find examples which are specific to a particular form of oppression.
Does she realise studio contracts give them the right to replace the actors whenever and for pretty much whatever they want? If the actor isn’t working they’re not gonna keep em around.
Shhh, don’t tell Elon and Gina this. I want to see Elon lose money and then eventually bail on her like the coward he is.
Person fired for taking medical advice from stupid billionaire psycho takes legal advice from stupid billionaire psycho
When asked for comment, the twice-fooled actress stated, “I’m being discriminated against. Everything that comes out of my mouth is caca-doodie and I think that’s pretty special.”
After 7 minutes of her lawyer begging her to stop chanting “Gina good and Disney bad, this rhyme makes you angry,” they finally provided us with the following statement:
While my client has no chance of proving anything other than their own ignorance, she has very rich friends and I’m very good at delaying and collecting checks.
The lawyer then fell over and revealed themselves to be 37 weasels in a trenchcoat that all ran off to suck eggs. Ms. Carano tried to follow suit, but instead slipped in a puddle of her own drool that had been accumulating while she struggled to breathe and blink at the same time throughout the interview.
Echoes of Peter Theil’s strategy to destroy Gawker.
well, no, gawker did themselves no favors by 1) posting a video of another person naked having sex , and then, 2) refusing to take it down when asked to “for journalistic integrity and definitely not salacious ad revenue”
this doesn’t mirror that at all, in the slightest, except it being funded by someone wealthy
This article depicts Elon Musk trawling for plaintiffs so he can fund lawsuits against Disney. Peter Thiel has publicly said in interviews he funded lawsuits aimed at Gawker as part of an intentional strategy. So that is in fact a perfectly legitimate comparison despite your protestations to the contrary.
You can find Gawker’s behavior objectionable, that’s fine, but that doesn’t have anything to do with anything insofar as it relates to my comparison, since that is not the element I was comparing.
Edit: Also, be sure to downvote and run away without engaging with what I said. Thanks!
Edit 2: Thanks for your compliance.
I mean, good luck getting past entertainment industry contracts.
But also… please, please, PLEASE make it so that political opinions and conspiracy theories can’t be used to fire people. I double dare the CEO of a social media network, an electric car company and an aerospace company create a labor market where you can sue for discrimination for that reason.
I mean, I only want to see it if I can reset the timeline back to this point, but still, I REALLY want to see it.
It won’t turn out how you want it to. They’ll find a way to make their opinions protected and not yours, if not immediately then in the long run. That’s the number one rule of the game: the proles always lose.
Ah, great, we should just let them run with it and never try, then.
I swear, defeatism gets me so bad. It may just be the most conservative power at work, along with “all politicians are the same”.
Incidentally, anybody thinking about a class action over Sony removing lifetime access to Funimation movie downloads? Because it’s the second time in a year they risk it on that one and I deeeeefinitely want to see that tested in court.
Ah, great, we should just let them run with it and never try, then.
You misunderstand me. My point isn’t that we should give up entirely, it’s simply that we stop trying to “beat them at their own game” (and force them to play ours instead).
I’m not sure what you think “our” game is.
I mean, in my game there is a functioning rule of law where separation of powers is real and universal access to the justice system is enforced regardless of income level. In that game when you set a rule that rule is applied across the board. And yeah, if the system is not playing that game you’re supposed to make it play it.
Is that the game? Because it’s a good game.
these folks are still confused that they have protection under “free speech” arguments anywhere except if being penalized by the government for it. there are no constitutional “free speech” arguments to be made against private companies, who are under no obligation to allow whatever speech they deem hurtful or potentially hurtful to their business.
Lol remember when Elon threatened a bunch of companies after leaving and tried to shame Apple especially?
Then apple told him to come to the Apple campus, and suddenly Elon stfu?
Anyways, I’m taking bets at how much Elon will get fucked by Disney.
This is the best summary I could come up with:
Elon Musk poked the Walt Disney Company anew on Tuesday by agreeing to fund a wrongful-termination lawsuit filed by the “Mandalorian” actress Gina Carano.
Disney dropped Ms. Carano, a former mixed-martial artist, from “The Mandalorian” in 2021 after she espoused baseless conspiracy theories and right-wing positions, some of which were seen as homophobic and antisemitic, in a series of social media posts.
Lucasfilm, the Disney division that makes “The Mandalorian,” said in a statement at the time that Ms. Carano’s “social media posts denigrating people based on their cultural and religious identities are abhorrent and unacceptable.”
More recently, Mr. Musk has cheered on Nelson Peltz, an activist investor who, with the disgruntled former chairman of Marvel Entertainment, is waging a proxy battle to gain two seats on the Disney board.
X’s head of business operations, Joe Benarroch, said in a statement that Mr. Musk’s company was “proud to provide financial support for Gina Carano’s lawsuit, empowering her to seek vindication of her free speech rights on X and the ability to work without bullying, harassment or discrimination.”
Ms. Carano’s lawsuit stated: “A short time ago, in a galaxy not so far away, defendants made it clear that only one orthodoxy in thought, speech or action was acceptable in their empire, and that those who dared to question or failed to fully comply would not be tolerated.
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IANAL (obviously)… (IAONAL?)
- Every headline I’ve read about this says Musk is funding it.
- Every article I’ve read says X is funding it, to make good on Elon’s promise that the company would fund legal battles for those discriminated against for their behavior on the platform
- Neither X nor Musk are defendants
- The complaint does however feature Pedro Pascal meming on the 45 IQ crowd
- The complaint also features an example of Pedro Pascal in 2020 posting a meme of Bert and Ernie (and Ducky) from Sesame Street holding up a “Black Trans Lives Matter” protest sign, a LGBTQ+ flag, and a “Defund the Police” sign respectively. The complaint alleges that Pedro Pascal was not disciplined by Disney for this, which it seems to allude is evidence of sexual discrimination. There was no mention of fair use law, though Disney likely wouldn’t need to worry about that had they taken issue with his post. The allegation stands that Pascal was not disciplined for using Defendant’s intellectual property to promote personal ideology
- The complaint, at least from what I can surmise, does not indicate what started the debacle on X, but tries to paint it as if users just started attacking Gina Carano. The earliest relevant artifact I could find was her uncaptioned August 2, 2020 post of a monochrome photo of a crowd giving right-hand-forward/Nazi salutes, with a red circle highlighting one man in the crowd who is not saluting. Gina would later add context: “Heartbreaking and powerful story of a man who changed his ways for the woman he loved… love changes the world, one person at a time.❤️” How you get “Nazi sympathizer” or “bootlicker” from that is beyond me.
- The outrage against Gina allegedly intensified when X users harassed her to “say ACAB” and “use pronouns” (to identify herself, on her profile). These users posed this as a civil obligation and implied that the public would vilify her for not conforming, to which she did not yield. Gina eventually updated her profile to jokingly show “boop/bop/beep”, to which she was excessively derided for (likely by bots/trolls)
“Elon Musk Is Funding […] through X” would communicate the immediate truth. Very few media agencies thought to do so. They also do not expose any of the details I highlighted in my bullet points. Nor do they link to the publicly available complaint PDF, at least that I’ve seen.
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“Jews were beaten in the streets, not by Nazi soldiers but by their neighbors…“ — That’s how you get Nazi sympathizer. For all the research you did it’s amazing you couldn’t find the one thing that was beyond you. Hope that helps.
Thank you for providing that context, I saw nothing about that in my (brief, limited) search. The quote felt incomplete, but it was more than enough for me to find news articles providing extra context. Here’s the full tweet, for anyone at OOTL as I am:
“Jews were beaten in the streets, not by Nazi soldiers but by their neighbors… even by children.
Because history is edited, most people today don’t realize that to get to the point where Nazi soldiers could easily round up thousands of Jews, the government first made their own neighbors hate them simply for being Jews. How is that any different from hating someone for their political views?”
My understanding has now shifted to that she could have been implying Republicans were being treated like Holocaust victims, which is patently absurd. But before even recognizing this, it struck me that the passage she quotes is accurate: history is edited, and the German public was propagandized into treating Jews as the enemy to nurture complicity for their genocide.
That’s not to say I agree with her, because not all identity politics are equal: someone being attacked for their religious beliefs, race, or heritage is much different from someone being attacked for their political views. But, it still remains that nobody should be attacking anybody in a civil political setting. Meaning nobody should be storming any government buildings, nobody should be showing up to election sites with guns, nobody should be picket lining a Planned Parenthood, and nobody should attack anyone based on their identity (which does not include their actions).