• Hegar@kbin.social
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    10 months ago

    That Hitchcock meme is great! But for anyone else who wanted it to be real - it was originally a cure for insomnia, not fascism.

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        10 months ago

        Oh I love the last line. “An idiot could operate it, and indeed many do.”

        Bloodlust seeks any acceptable target. Be suspicious of your own instinct for violence. Fascists also think their violence is righteous.

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          When someone fucks you over in a $500 drug deal, that’s the monetary cutoff point where violence is straight up recommended as far as I am concerned.

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            A. What does that have to do with fascism?

            B. Alfred Hitchcock did not say this

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            10 months ago

            There’s a broad range of responses between murder and tolerance. Your bloodlust makes you the same as the people you’re so horny to mutilate.

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              Oh, weird, I initially read the comment you’re replying to as agreeing with your position. Like: ‘we can’t allow our side to hate, or casually joke about killing, those who disagree politically with us’ But after reading your reply I can see it being meant either of two opposite ways.

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            You’re right. We should be tolerant of hateful, sadistic, bigoted, violent pricks and never stand up for what is right.

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      What do you mean “nope”? I’m pretty sure bullets stopped the fascists in WW2. Is this a point of contention with you?

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        10 months ago

        Alfred Hitchcock did not say this.

        And OP is just fantasizing about fascism as an excuse to fantasize about violence. Tough Mother fucker on the internet.

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          10 months ago
          1. Stephen Crowder didn’t say all those things that memers on the Internet wrote on his sign either

          2. Who says we are fantasizing?

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            10 months ago
            1. Stephen Crowder can get fucked
            2. Your violent fantasies can also get fucked
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              I think some people are just looking for an excuse to do things they’ve been craving for a long time.

              Let us not dehumanize the people we disagree with and call for violence. Because at that point we are no different than they are.

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                Bullshit. Fascism sees violence not as a means to an end, but a goal unto itself. It will be violent regardless. In contrast, even the most bloodthirsty anti-fascist sees violence as a means to an end; something to be left behind as soon as its purpose is complete.

                If you want to stop it without violence, it has to be now. Once rooted in, a violent response is the only one that will work. Pretending otherwise will only enable them.

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    My great grandfather used to drop 500lb bombs on them. It was super effective.

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      Your great grandfather sounds incredibly based!

      Mine had the dubious honors of smuggling booze as an early teen, and allegedly helped popularize deposit fees because he would rent all the major party halls in his city, and then cancel all but one, ensuring he ran the only big party in town on a given weekend.

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        But what a party!

        Mine was a pacifist, but spoke German, so they had him guard the POWs and report on what they said.

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      My grandfather helped your grandfather by going up in untested fighter planes with the pilots and checking to make sure none of the bolts were loose.

      He was also an air raid warden in London, meaning he was out on the streets getting people to safety while the bombs were dropping.

      I wish I had an ounce of that man’s courage… although, being both Jewish and German, he knew exactly what had to be stopped.

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        He started off as Infantry sent to Gallipoli, then joined the Australian Flying corps and flew over Ypre and the Somme. After the end of WW1 he joined the RAF and flew medium bombers over Europe during WW2.

        I just remember him as a kind old man that loved me.

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            At least the originals could honestly say that they didn’t know how far it would be taken. Modern Nazis know exactly where this shit goes.

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    Conservative followers don’t realize they are becoming fascists. It’s sad to watch and no conversation helps them.

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      “WilL tHErE bE An invEsTIGatIon fOr the MuRdER of UnArMeD VeTeRaN AshlII BaBBoT?”

      Clearly there are still a lot of the fuckers ready to fuck around and find out.

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        Unfortunately. She literally rammed her car into another car allegedly just because they made her mad. She had serious mental health issues, and it’s horrible that she died, but the same people don’t care when it isn’t one of “theirs.” They’ll make excuses for police violence in every case except where it was almost the only logical choice for said agent. Like what was he supposed to do? Some of those people were actually armed despite lies to the contrary. I’d be shitting my pants if the MAGA mob were making my work day that bad. What did they expect? I thought the Capitol police were absolutely incredibly soft and very very professional.

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      I talk to people online who hate immigrants because they are ‘ruining their town’ and they want to make sure their town is ‘kept in their hands’ and when I call them racist for saying that an African shop hand is incompetent because they can’t speak English they can’t accept it.

      They don’t see themselves as racist, sexist, homophobic or fascist.

      They’ve unhinged from reality.

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    Doesn’t ‘homeopathic’ mean it’s massively dilluted to the point where there’s none of the original ingredients?

    Or am I missing the joke here?

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      Nah, you’re right but many people just take it to mean “alternative medicine”, I think

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      I think the joke is that the bullet is smaller than the baseball bat.

      But since it’s also far more powerful, the joke doesn’t really work for me.

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      "A system for treating disease based on the administration of minute doses of a drug that in massive amounts produces symptoms in healthy individuals similar to those of the disease itself. "

      I believe the bullet is supposed to be the minute dose and shooting all the fascists would count as administering the dose in massive amounts. They could also just be saying it’s a homebrew cure since most of my fellow Americans have guns and like to talk about them using them liberally.

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      Damn. I check that and this website pretty regularly just to see if I need to drastically change my lifestyle that day and so far I have no reason to change.

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      On a tangential note, I am amazed that even in homeopathy there are ones who believe it and ones that are outright scammers. What I mean is that some homeopathic (sic!) “drugs” are made out of non-existent ingredients diluted into non-existence even more. To be a quadratic scam seems like an impressive achievement to me

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        It is all about dilution AND succussion. The shaking is what makes it powerful, that and magical thinking.

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      Alfred was talking about insomnia, in this gallows humor piece. And his next line was, “an idiot could wield it, and indeed many do.” Mocking violent idiots, as one should.

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    Ah yes, good old fashioned lead therapy. For fascism I recommend at least 9mm.

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    I just hope violence is kept at a minimum. Most of the people where I live are Trumpies (well the older crowd especially) and they truly are just totally oblivious. They certainly aren’t evil. It’s so unfortunate because these are people I’d say are good people. They’ve never killed or directly harmed a soul to my knowledge. I just hope if there’s violence that it’s targeted top heavy because we all know who the problem(s) are and they could probably be counted by any tally counter that goes to 1k. AKA don’t focus on the manipulated, focus on the manipulator(s).

    Please note this is in no way condoning any violence outside of Minecraft

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      This is exactly how it started in Germany in the 1930ths:

      Old people dreaming of the Empire - which by the way did very little for them - and not really into politics. They just wanted a change.

      And then voted for their own hangman.

      Best argument a relative told me why he voted for Hitler: “I thought he was a funny guy with excellent dark humor. I didn’t knew he wasn’t joking.”

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    This is why we’re fucked. The only tool to fight violent fascists is more violence. That’s why I’m looking into relocating to another country. USA is brimming with violent assholes who can’t wait for an opportunity to lash out.

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    Is the fascist in the room with us?