• ArbitraryValue
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    So “magical thinking” explains why they believe this stuff in the first place, but what explains why they keep believing it after it doesn’t work? Even in a fantasy setting, it doesn’t make sense. If you thought vampires couldn’t come into your house uninvited but then a vampire did exactly that, you’d run away. These people would lecture the vampire about what his weaknesses really were and then go online and complain that the vampire sucked their blood when he wasn’t supposed to.

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      why they keep believing it after it doesn’t work

      If these any people knew basic logic, religion would be very upset.

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      They’re desperate. And they found thier defense mechanism. Having others that also go along with the same fantasy just creates a cycle of denial.

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      I think this is the thing that most confuses me about all these sovcits, they are presented with demonstrable evidence and refuse to accept it

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        Every sovcit interaction is answered with either “you win”, “it’ll work itself out in court”, or “the system is ignoring its own rules to win”.

        Every prayer is answered with “yes”, “no”, or “later”.

        Unfalsifiable claims gonna be unfalsifiable.

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          Conspiracy theorists are different because there isn’t much of a cost to believing a conspiracy theory. If I think reptilian aliens have secretly taken over the government, I’m probably not going to do anything about it other than ranting online, which is harmless to me. I’m still going to pay my bills with real money and put license plates on my car. I might lose some friends who think I’m crazy but I’ll make new conspiracy-theorist friends. I’m not going to wreck my life by breaking the law like these guys are doing.

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      It more or less starts with the mostly true belief that everything is contracts as far as the government is concerned. Then they apply the faulty logic that they can unilaterally withdraw from any contract they feel like. From there everything more or less follows a predictable pattern that they can pick and choose contracts to follow at their discretion.

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      As far as I understand, when it doesn’t work for them they just double down, and assume they did something wrong in their arcane incantation of the magic law words, like they didn’t write their name in all caps or they invoked wrote down the wrong spell random legalese phrase.

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      “I am filming everything! Now, NOW I’m turning into a creature of the shadows, ok? I don’t have a treaty with you, Nosferatu. Call our lawyer!” Crying wife: “Which one?”

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      From the little I’ve seen, it seems like they just think they got the magic incantation wrong somehow.

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      Endless choruses of “you did it wrong and here’s why” where every deadbeat sovcit proposes their own interpretation/course of action that will “definitely work” even though it can’t, won’t, and hasn’t.