cross-posted from: https://lemmy.ca/post/17439723

cross-posted from: https://lemmy.ca/post/17439722

Palestinian Territory – Israel’s army has again massacred Palestinian civilians who had gathered in Gaza to obtain humanitarian aid, targeting them with gunfire from helicopters, tanks, and drones near the Kuwait roundabout on the outskirts of Gaza City. This incident has resulted in over 60 deaths and 160 injuries, some of which are critical.

  • bamboo@lemm.eeEnglish
    527·
    9 months ago

    Is there any point at which the US would allow international pressure to end this genocide? When does it become strategically disadvantageous?

    • fustigation769curtain@lemmy.worldEnglish
      115·
      9 months ago

      LOOKS LIKE THE LEMMY CENORS ARE OUT IN FULL FORCE

      This is the comment that I made that got removed:

      Is there any point at which the US would allow international pressure to end this genocide?

      No.

      When does it become strategically disadvantageous?

      Always. We literally had 9/11 because of Israel and still haven’t learned our lesson.

      We are literally not allowed to say 9/11 happened because of Israel, despite the mastermind behind the attack literally saying that’s why he did it AND I even provided the source!

      https://lemmy.world/comment/8465732

      There are some horrible mods on this team with a clear agenda. We cannot trust them.

        • fustigation769curtain@lemmy.worldEnglish
          265·
          9 months ago

          https://www.dni.gov/files/documents/ubl2016/english/To the American people.pdf

          As for us, our Iraq was invaded in response to pressure from capitalists with greed for black gold, and you continue to support the oppressive Israelis in their occupation of our Palestine in response to pressures on your administration by a Jewish lobby backed by enormous financial capabilities.

          Straight from the horse’s mouth, Osama bin Laden.

          • owen@lemmy.caEnglish
            212·
            9 months ago

            Damn son. He was very clear. I have never seen that document. He even concludes with it:

            In conclusion: Be assured that we do not fight for mere killing but to stop the killing of our people. It is a sin to kill a person without proper, justifiable cause, but terminating his killer is a right. You should be aware that justice is the strongest army and security offers the best livelihood; you lost it by your own making when you supported the Israelis in occupying our land and killing our brothers in Palestine. The road to safety starts with the stopping of aggression.

            • fustigation769curtain@lemmy.worldEnglish
              246·
              9 months ago

              I have never seen that document.

              It went viral on tiktok a few years ago and they started banning anyone who shared it.

              The propaganda war goes both ways, but a lot of useful idiots don’t realize that.

              I think it’s sad how most people, including myself, only saw it after it went viral and not before we invaded.

              Edit: It’s even sadder because my original comment highlighting how 9/11 happened because of Israel was removed.

              This is what I mean by propaganda and indoctrination. There are even people on the mod team that have a vested interest in keeping the truth from people’s eyes if it’s inconvenient for Israel.

            • Linkerbaan@lemmy.worldEnglish
              63·
              9 months ago

              The way for change and freeing yourselves from the pressure of lobbyists is not through the Republican or the Democratic parties, but through undertaking a great revolution for freedom: not to free Iraq from Saddam Hussein but to free the White House and to free Barack Husayn so he can implement the change you seek. It does not only include improvement of your economic situation and ensure your security, but more importantly, helps him in making a rational decision to save humanity from the harmful [greenhouse] gases that threaten its destiny.

              For the American youth to succeed in this change, they need to relive the history of their ancestors and the conditions in their country more than two centuries ago. They need to understand the similarities during that era and their present situation, especially in their fundamental conditions. The British Parliament sided with corporations, then against the interests

        • proleEnglish
          72·
          9 months ago

          Right? It’s not like the people who perpetrated 9/11 actually told us exactly why they did it… Oh wait…

          • owen@lemmy.caEnglish
            2·
            9 months ago

            Eh man, I was barely born around that time. I had never seen or heard of the documents

    • indexEnglish
      32·
      9 months ago

      Once the job is done.

      • mightyfoolish@lemmy.worldEnglish
        3·
        9 months ago

        The current government of Iran and Hamas are both reactions caused by US meddling in the Middle East. The CIA actively led a campaign to get Iranians to turn on a democratic government -> supported Reza Shah -> which lead to the 1979 revolution which established the current government.

          • mightyfoolish@lemmy.worldEnglish
            1·
            9 months ago

            So what should US do? Calmly sit down and shout: “We are bad, please kill us.”

            Not build a country on land in use. If you can’t do that, at least leave them alone. Not a single West Bank city can develop anymore since it would just collide into the area near the settlements (which would lead to getting shot). At least leave them alone.

            Also, what you are essentially doing is picking a specific point of time in history, dubbing a it a root cause and then you excuse the other side’s actions.

            I’m not sure what you mean by this? Maybe you are confusing me with someone else?

            Rome for the conflict in the middle east because if Romans hadn’t forced out jews thousands years ago, this wouldn’t have happened.

            The Jews did come back already, a long time ago. Then they converted to Christianity and then to Islam: https://www.pbs.org/empires/romans/empire/jews.html

            So all Israel’s war crimes are actually Romans’ fault, so now let’s collectively blame them.

            This is technically anti-Semitic. Not all Jews are the same. Some are black, some are white, some are Middle Eastern.