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You watch the video? He held it above his own head towards the sky.
Course the fucking clown didn’t watch the video. Guy has no understanding of sectarian violence and apartheid at all.
Do you think it’s appropriate to run around with fireworks in the middle of an armed conflict?
Especially if it’s what you idealistic, online types say and it’s a “genocide” and an “apartheid state”, do you really see any other way this would end?
It’s in the west bank not in Gaza. These IDF terrorists are there illegally to begin with.
Do you think it’s appropriate to be in medical facilities to treat your wounds in the middle of an armed conflict?
That gets people shot in Gaza now too.
As well as the West Bank
Why are you ok with anyone shooting kids?
Who said that? There is no room for a nuance discussion?
I didn’t watch the video, but based on the text it sure seems like the kid made choices that a reasonable person could think were incredibly risky given the circumstances.
Pointing that out does not mean that you think it was reasonable to shoot him; just that you think it is unsurprising.
I didn’t watch the video,
We know.
This was in the west bank. Not Gaza. You should have watched the video. It would have been wrong still but more understandable for this to have happened in Gaza. Where Israel’s active terror campaign is currently in motion. But this was in the West Bank where Israel is still employing stochastic terrorist tactics.
This would be like saying it was understandable and excusable for police to come shoot and kill you on your doorstep for setting off a firework. Wherever you live.
This exactly. But no, asshats don’t think. Just react. Sad thing is, they don’t even know what they are reacting to. None of them even went to Israel, even fewer went to Gaza and most likely almost all of them never was involved in any other conflict that argument over who gets the toy from box of serial.
Tell me you know literally nothing about the Palestinian conflict without telling me you know literally nothing about the Palestinian conflict.
If a 12 year old child cannot play with fireworks, it’s an apartheid state.
I think you have to be 18 to buy fireworks in most places in the US…
So here’s a challenge for the non-fucking clown. Take the fireworks, got into the police station and set fire to it. See how that goes for you. Shithead.
Wow, cool comparison. Now what would happen if you were at home and the police entered your property and you set off a firework? Would you expect to be gunned down in your home? Because that’s what IDF is doing to Palestinians. The whole country was their home, then they got relegated to Gaza, which is now their new home, currently being invaded and attacked by fascists.
Don’t bother feeding this moron. He’s not going to suddenly wake up to the realization he’s an ignorant cunt. Look at his post history. He’s a troll or an idiot or both.
If police came armed in my house, I certainly wouldn’t point anything at them. Yes, I’d fully expect to be gunned down if someone is pointing a gun at me and I pulled something on them. Just look at all the police cam videos where people get gunned down for simplest of things. Sure police is not in the right, no one argued they were, but it’s a stupid thing to point anything at armed people who are afraid of dying.
And no, there was no “whole country was their home”. They had no country. They rejected that solution.
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Partition and later the Two-State Solution have been wielded by Israel to covet and annex as much Palestinian land as possible with the least amount of Palestinians.
Before 1948, Palestinian Leadership repeatedly advocated for a Unitary Binational State for decades.
The Concept of Transfer 1882-1948
Palestinian Arab Congress advocating for Unified State 1928
Arab Higher Committee advocating for Unified State 1937
Arab League advocating for Unified Binational State 1948
After the founding of Israel, the Two-State Solutions were utilized to further annex the Palestinian Occupied Territories and enact military control over Palestinians while denying them human and civil rights. Despite this, both Fatah and later Hamas have accepted a Two-State Solution on the 1967 borders, with the two most important factors being the Right of Return of Palestinian refugees and an end to the permanent occupation.
I saw the video, he was firing fireworks towards what looked like a fenced border wall, likely manned with soldiers.
Should that fence and other shit be there? Probably not.
Should you be shooting fireworks at armed fortifications during an invasion? Definitely not.
That kid resisted the invasion with the tools he had, he fought and lost.
Regardless, it’s a stupid thing to do. Am sorry for the loss of life, but I didn’t expect anything else to happen. Go during any protest and do the same, in any country. And see how the police reacts. You’ll be the first target for water cannon or batons. Idea of having potentially hazardous thing pointed at you makes them a priority target. Simple as that.
Am sorry for the loss of life
Given your participation on this thread, I doubt that.
That’s your right. But your doubt means nothing, especially doesn’t mean I rejoice every time number of civilians die.
If you say so.
Lmao talk about scratching a liberal
why does protesting, which is essentially just saying “I don’t like thing” justify immediate violent summary execution of a child? You can’t get any more twirly mustasche bad guy than that.
“Rami Hamdan Al-Halhouli, 12, holds a firework aloft moments before being shot by Israeli police.”
That’s clearly a life threatening nuclear ballistic missile that can flatten Tel Aviv six times over
Lighting that firework is 0.8 times the 9/11 !
Ah yes, the hand held rocket that flies from Jerusalem to Tel Aviv.
They just love any excuse to shoot kids.
Fuck off. When the troubles where on in northern Ireland the Brits and the ruc weren’t shooting up prods when setting off fireworks and bonfires on the twelfth. But they targeted Catholics using whatever excuse they could think off. Israels doing the same shit, any excuse to kill people seen as less human.
I hope it never happens to your kid. I’m not saying you’re a psychopath, but what you’re saying is complete shit
If you think it’s okay for your kid to go to military, during conflict and fire fireworks at them or close to them, then you are shit parent. And no, what am saying is not complete shit, it’s just pure logic. People are dying by the thousands and you think “let’s poke it with a stick” is a reasonable action?
Tell me, what conflict is there in Jerusalem? This is not Gaza. It’s 100km away.
The only conflict that exist in Jerusalem is the apartheid state of Zionist Israel.
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Slurs are welcome on lemmy as long as we’re talking about people that conservative Democrats want dead.
Nope. Used it in original context… that is of lacking intelligence. But sure, you do you. Fight some more battles over which words offend and which don’t without realizing it’s the meaning behind the word that matters, not the sound it makes.
Nope. Used it in original context… that is of lacking intelligence.
Uh huh. Don’t insult me by expecting me to buy that shit.
expected coming from zionists of the apartheid Israeli government
I think it’s a military of conscripted amateurs
I would assume most people who join for the first time are amateurs. That’s what training is for.
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2 replies on the same comment? Make sure you hydrate, I’m not sure your brain cells can handle all of this processing power you’re showing.
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Compelling argument. You’re clearly a beacon of nuanced and accurate political commentary. Go back to your hole, bot.
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NSFL: Video of the shooting
This kid shot a firework at an armed fortification of an invading force.
As you rightfully said, kid, they are not known to make the best decisions. That’s no reason to get murdered.
It’s either that or he just shot fireworks in the air at the start of Ramadan nowhere close to hitting any soldiers.
It looks like he’s shooting it a giant wall with fencing on top of it. Likely the same giant wall with fencing on it where he got shot from.
The firework goes like 3 metres up in the air. The IDF must have been fearing for their lives from that hand launched mortar.
Destiny says that this doesn’t count because it wasn’t ordered by the president of the United States
Who the fuck cares what that schlub thinks anyway? Seriously, how the fuck did this guy get so goddamn big and well known? He’s a joke.
I think they’re being satirical. No one of any actual intelligence takes what Destiny says as truth.
Right, but as you say this, there’s like a 5 hour “debate” on youtube with three very serious academics on this topic. He sticks out like a sore thumb. Norm Finkelstein straight up calls him out for clearly never even having read a book on the subject. It’s humiliating.
He only gets gigs like that because he has a massive audience.
I didn’t think about him until he embarrassed himself in front of me and nkw it’s all i can think about im obsessed with it
What did he do to embarrass himself in front of you?
Destiny had a “debate” with Finkelstein a few days ago on Lex Friedman where he verbatim repeated every piece of debunked Hasbara available it was quite embarrassing to watch. Example:
When Finkelstein said that the IDF murdered four children on a beach Mr. Boneri said that was a lie and those children were inside a "Hamas compound. A simple Google shows Mr Canoli had no idea what he was talking about
Israel exonerates itself over Gaza beach killings of four children last year
An account of the investigation, posted late on Thursday by military spokesman Lt Col Peter Lerner, said the strike had targeted a “compound” which had been known as belonging to Hamas’s Naval Police and Naval Force (including naval commandos)”.
But journalists who attended the scene in the immediate aftermath of the attack – including a reporter from the Guardian – saw a small and dilapidated fisherman’s hut containing a few tools where the children had been playing hide-and-seek.
The Israeli claims appear at odds in several details with what journalists were able to see at the time.
So the “The IDF investigated themselves and found they have done nothing wrong” is basically every argument for pro-israeli grifters.
Destiny had a “debate” with Finkelstein a few days ago where he verbatim repeated every piece of debunked Hasbara available it was quite embarrassing to watch.
Damn. Destiny recently said that he could finally start to read on the Israeli-Palestinian conflict as a result of getting medication for his ADHD. I wasn’t expecting that to turn him into an even bigger moron.
Vyvanse and Adderall don’t make you smarter. They make a train wreck
Not if he actually has ADHD… Dunno if you’ve ever met someone who is actually legitimately prescribed Adderall, but it doesn’t make them tweak out. It makes them able to concentrate more like a neurotypical person.
Destiny is just a train wreck because he’s an idiot.
Plenty of people with ADHD take Adderall because it helps them function. Don’t universalize your experience with a specific drug designed to help a specific kind of brain, specially when there’s plenty of people with opposite experiences.
How did the President of the United States get so big and well known?
I think notoriety comes with the job, idk.
He was a mid StarCraft 2 player who said funny things when he got mad, I have no idea how it got to this. He was never funny on purpose, it was funny watching him be salty and now hes some political commentator.
When did everyone one start mistaking not wanting to live under a right wing christo fascist regime as ‘support for the United States govenrment?’
How the hell are fireworks legal in Palestine? Like if they aren’t illegal that blows my mind, they are illegal in my country and we aren’t a war torn occupied territory. And if they were smuggled in, why?
This is the West Bank.
