• BlueFootedPetey
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    Newbie here, do I not see lemmygrad stuff on my “all” feed because I am on the shitjustworks instance?

    I can pull it up in the search bar, but don’t seem able to subscribe.

    I probably need to watch a newbs guide to the fediverse video or something. Like I understand the basic idea, but not the nuances or technical stuff.

    • spujb@lemmy.cafeOP
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      8 months ago

      defed.xyz lets you check.

      looks like your instance is defederated by lemmygrad, so that’s probably what’s up.

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        8 months ago

        Yea I knew I had start looking up who is federated with whom. Thanks for the link!

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          8 months ago

          no problem im always forgetting this specific link too, but it’s really handy :)

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      8 months ago

      Yeah. Also, your instance is pretty well known for doing little about the vast numbers of hard right and alt right individuals on it who seek out and harass left leaning individuals, so it’s in both instances best interest to be separated.

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        Thanks for the heads up. Outside of a couple instances I see mentioned all the time, Im not really sure of the differences between them all and their reputations. Lemmy world was my first attempt, but two or three times the account creation did not work. I’m sure it was user error, but I’m not sure how exactly I messed up.

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        8 months ago

        Really? I just joined it cause I thought the instance name was hilarious.

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      yes! @[email protected] doesn’t like grad and defederated from them.

      here’s why in their own words:

      The decision to block the Lemmygrad instance was less a question of censorship, and more an issue of personal conviction. As a volunteer dedicating my personal resources and time to facilitating a space for users to create, discover, and discuss - not just on this instance, but across the Fediverse - I admit that this choice was made alone, selfishly, without the consent or thoroughly considering the collective opinion of the community. With the above said, sh.itjust.works has had the lemmygrad instance blocked from its first day.

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        Actually, there was a vote immediately after the defederation to see whether people wanted lemmygrad refederated, and about 80-90% of the votes were to stay defederated, so it seems the users of sh.itjust.works also don’t like grad.

        edit: my mistake, turns out it was hexbear that was voted on, which has similar content

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          It’s worth noting about your edit: I’m pretty sure hexbear was the one that initiated defederation from shit over shit posters being transphobic and harassing users in dms.

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            You are correct, hexbear did defederate from sh.itjust.works about a week after federating with them, so the vote became moot.

            The reason you gave is part of the reason hexbear admins gave, but I would take what they say with a grain of salt. I’ve seen people say things like “being trans in thoughts is a much different experiece than being trans in the way you dress, act, and look” and hexbear users will call that transphobic/uninclusive, as well as generally being vitriolic and unpleasant.

            As an example, a post where someone says “Biden brings up minimum wage increase and asks other democrats to speak up” will have several comments from hexbear users saying “capitalist bootlickers defending Biden should be shot like the vermin they are.” Maybe some users harassed hexbear users for these comments? I personally didn’t see any but it’s definitely possible.