cross-posted from: https://slrpnk.net/post/9388627

Record-breaking increase in CO2 levels in world’s atmosphere | Experts issue warning after finding global average concentration in March was 4.7ppm higher than same period last year

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    7 months ago

    Maybe it wasn’t clear that the goal was to produce less CO2. How about if we make a big banner or something, y’know, to really spell it out.

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      7 months ago

      The increase has been spurred, scientists say, by the periodic El Niño climate event, which has now waned

      One can maybe alter emissions, but not much that one can do about El Niño.

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        El Niño is a certainty. Obviously the emissions are the controllable. Blaming this on El Niño is like shoving someone in front of a moving train and saying nothing can be done about the 5:05 express.

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          Obviously the emissions are the controllable. Blaming this on El Niño […]

          Nobody is actually blaming anything on El Niño. El Niño simply covered up how bad it was already for some time.
          Which also means those emissions are indeed not controllable. Because they have happened years ago and we still can’t do time travel. That’s the whole actual point of talking about El Niño here.

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            We’ve been in La Niña since 2019. I think you mean to say the lack of El Niño has covered it up. That’s not true for climate scientists that track CO2 and methane emissions. The most recent large contributors were wildfires. That is also a controllable and preventable contributor. The primary problem remains, no VC is eager to fund the projects that will mitigate climate change without a return. It’s simply never going to be a priority in capitalism, and requires governmental financing.

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              Nope, it needs governmental regulations.

              Financing-wise renewable energy has long surpassed fossil fuels. It’s not capitalists in general blocking the change as they would make a lot of money. This is very specifically about a small amount of individuals making their money in fossil fuels and spending a lot on lobbying to slow the transition down as they try to squeeze as much out of their business model as possible before it runs against a wall they can already see (but try to hide from the consumer).

              The same is true in other sectors, for example in traffic where totally insane bullshit gets pushed (hyper-loops, air taxis etc.) as magical alternatives to actually working public transport. That’s also not some business that will ever make money. It’s a diversion by people who want to keep making money in a very specific field (CE cars) before that whole sector also dies off. Also the scaling effect in EV production as well as improvements and development still have a massive potential with much money to be made by the people investing into a still developing and growing market. Unlike the dying market of combustion engines that competes on miniscule optimisations of the status quo still possible. Yet the very same companies knowing that combustion engines are dead and not even working on developing a next line but instead focusing on electric drives, still do marketing like the opposite would be true so they can sell that trash with no future perspective as long as possible.

              There is quiet a lot to say against capitalism, but at the moment we don’t have a capitalism problem (at least not where climate action is involved) but one of corruption that helps a few people to keep failing businesses alive a bit longer at the expense of everyone including capitalists in the future businesses that will replace them.

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                I agree, but I think we’re both right. Relocating subsidies from carbon positive industries to carbon neutral would absolutely help, and would also address my point about the lack of VC investment on climate change technology due to little or no return on investment.

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        Well I mean, America’s comedy president thought it might be a feasible option to drop nuclear weapons onto hurricanes (allegedly) so I’m sure someone would give stopping El Niño the ol’ college try.

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    Vast majority of people just don’t give a shit. Honestly, my life and mental health improved so much once I just resigned to the idea that we’re fucked.

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    Has anyone investigated if Russia has maybe a few too many open gas pipes? Wouldn’t this county massively profit from reduced permafrost and increased climate refugees causing chaos in Europe and other non dictator countries? Is this too much conspiracy? I don’t state this as absolute fact, just some out of the box thinking that could be wrong.

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      I recall reading years ago that Siberia has enough methane under its ice to cause a feedback loop that would kill everyone if it escaped. So there’s that I guess.

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    Mmm time to re-read “The Ministry For the Future” I guess…

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      And then what? Carry on until we need an even bigger/thicker blanket?

      • LustyArgonian@lemmy.world
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        It would just buy us some time to actually address climate change. Currently, we have done nothing except make it exponentially worse. If we don’t have a blanket, we will definitely all die. If we have one, we might get a few years and make it. It’s better than nothing. Literally. It’s the only option.

        And our governments agree:

        https://www.nytimes.com/2024/04/02/climate/global-warming-clouds-solar-geoengineering.html

        “Every year that we have new records of climate change, and record temperatures, heat waves, it’s driving the field to look at more alternatives,” said Robert Wood, the lead scientist for the team from the University of Washington that is running the marine cloud brightening project. “Even ones that may have once been relatively extreme.”

        Brightening clouds is one of several ideas to push solar energy back into space — sometimes called solar radiation modification, solar geoengineering, or climate intervention. Compared with other options, such as injecting aerosols into the stratosphere, marine cloud brightening would be localized and use relatively benign sea salt aerosols as opposed to other chemicals.

        They also have floated the idea of releasing sulfur into the atmosphere, getting the idea from increased warming after shipping emissions (which include sulfur) were reduced.