• @[email protected]
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    If you say the magic words, laws don’t apply.

    EDIT: I looked up two of these. Theft prevention act? It’s like they’re randomly cutting and pasting parts of laws and in their heads somehow it makes sense.

    I can also randomly pick words from legal documents to say anything I want. But then, every word in this post came from a legal document including the following:

    I now own your house and by having read this post you consent to a transfer of all your assets to me. No signature or confirmation required. No take backs.

    • @[email protected]
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      321 month ago

      I believe the technical term is “no takesie backsies”.

      Now, the whole thing is void, you fool!

    • @[email protected]OPM
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      201 month ago

      Yeah well your spouse is now my spouse, oogity boogity I said the magic words. Also gimme all your shoes.

    • wander1236
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      101 month ago

      You can’t own my house if I don’t own a house. Checkmate liberal

    • @[email protected]
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      51 month ago

      “natural born” is part of the qualification to be President of the United States in the constitution.

      “Under God” is a clause that was officially added to the pledge of allegiance in the 1950s. The pledge of allegiance doesn’t really have much legal significance at all in the United States, even if it is recited daily in schools.

      “Natural born woman” sounds a lot like an Aretha Franklin hit.

      • @[email protected]
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        21 month ago

        after reading about people who don’t understand law I can only say YOU MAKE ME FEEL LIKE less of a dumbass. (not you, mkwt, all you did was put Aretha in my head which is never a bad thing, also FREEEEeeeeeWAY OF LOVE)

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      111 month ago

      Ugh the ones with the “anti-AI” “licensing”? I honestly don’t know how they expect that to accomplish anything, other than look like a pretentious idiot.

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        51 month ago

        It’s either fair use to train, and the license does nothing, or it is not fair use to train, and the license is extraneous. I explained that to one of them and he said the license isn’t actually supposed to do the “anti-AI” he claims it does. Thus winning the discussion, I guess.

        • @[email protected]
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          41 month ago

          For the US: you already have a copyright on everything you write. Adding CC-BY-NC grants others the right to republish it for non-commercial use, it does not remove any rights at all.

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              I agree it’s not great for public discourse, but you are subject to the whims of the third party’s TOS. You can still publish it, but have to make your own site or pick a third party that won’t sell you out.

              Or you just accept that the third party is going to do what it’s going to do. Post your discourse, but don’t expect it to be protected.

                • brianorca
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                  I agree, that’s how it should work. GitHub as a third party probably had better TOS than most, and would face more uproar if they changed it. But they are not a social media site.

                  But for regular social media posting, Facebook, Twitter, etc, there is no fighting against their TOS other than abstinence. You can object in writing with one of those footers, but nobody in charge is going to read it or honor it. It will be shoveled into the AI along with everything else. Your only recourse will be an expensive legal fight, and it would be difficult to prove any particular post was in the AI or not. It’s unproven legal ground to say giving a post to an AI for training even qualifies as a “copy” under copyright, or what notification qualifies to exempt your content.

    • @wheeldawg
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      71 month ago

      There’s probably about 6 to 10 words in a row somewhere in it that says something they like and wish was in a different context, so they will quote just that line.

  • @[email protected]
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    211 month ago

    My favorite is the “without prejudice” part. That’s the part of the spell that let’s you banish a demon but don’t prevent it from showing back up later.

  • @[email protected]
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    201 month ago

    Ah yes, let’s reference all of the laws, for which you don’t ascribe, to justify you not ascribing to those laws.

    • @[email protected]
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      201 month ago

      This is what gets me every time. They quote US laws, but at the same time claim they are not subject to any US laws. How do they decide what laws apply and what laws don’t?

      • norbert
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        How do they decide what laws apply and what laws don’t?

        The same way religions do, willy-nilly.

    • @[email protected]OPM
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      She of course teaches a “donation based” class on Telegram about how you too can be tased and dragged out of your car.

    • @[email protected]
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      71 month ago

      Study these codes written by the government, they give you rights; not those codes written by the government, they don’t give you any rights.

    • Nougat
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      31 month ago

      I don’t see a “may,” what am I missing?

          • Flying Squid
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            11 month ago

            You must be, because the image OP posted to make this thread is not that one.

                • Nougat
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                  Yeah, if I do “open original URL” and go over and look at the post at lemmy.world, I see the image you are seeing.

                  I’ve noticed other federation missteps with votes, just trying to pay attention to these little weirdnesses that are emergent properties of a decentralized social media environment.

  • @[email protected]
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    You know, I’m really rooting for these people. They are like Mario 64 speed runners looking for the new speed butt jump glitch. One of them might actually find something worthwhile.

    • @[email protected]
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      91 month ago

      I agree - I’m just waiting for it to get upheld by the Supreme Court before I get my cardboard license plates too lol

    • The Snark Urge
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      This can be viewed as soft evidence that we’re not in a simulation. Speedrunners achieve their goals, and do not waste time on unnecessary dialogue.

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    What’s really interesting to me is how much time they invest in this stuff. It’s not exactly interesting. And there’s no tangible result for them, other than ending up in court. They do end up having to pay tax or whatever it is they’re trying to dodge.

    What do they get out of it?

    These sovcits obsessed with sticking to the DMV just seem like flat earthers - there’s no actual point to the obsession.

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      Imagine how much fun they would be having with a wizard character in D&D instead of trying to cast spells through the court system.

  • @wheeldawg
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    I’m really curious about the “without prejudice” part. I’ve never heard that part of their “lore” before.

    Does it basically end up meaning “give me the rights of this paper/document, but I reserve the right to not meet my end of the bargain”? Because knowing them, this is exactly what it boils down to.

    How much blind faith does it take for these morons to have their whole hope seated in claiming that judges dismissing them bring called a “victory”? To my knowledge none of them has ever succeeded in any way in a court setting, so they have no real examples to point to besides a judge just not seeming it worth the struggle of dealing with them.

    Although at this point we should be seeking to take every one of these cases there are and summarily deciding to rule for their worst case scenario. Movement will likely die off when they spend the rest of their lives such in jail or under an impossible set of fees that they’ll never even make progress on, much less finish off.

    Clearly I jest, but if we could stop ducking these cases and start prosecuting them more harshly, this would naturally go away.

  • @[email protected]
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    81 month ago

    The American colonies declared “All rights reserved” (independence), King George said nope and sent men with guns. The settlers won.

    Let’s see if this sovcit is ready to put her assertion to the test.

  • @[email protected]
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    81 month ago

    I really want to know how they think a regular license plate means the vehicle is for hire.