• boredtortoise@lemm.ee
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    Maybe, maybe not. For now all the approaches I’ve found out, heard, ideated have glaring problems, are very unique to the person, or rely on external factors not available to all.

    I’ll always appreciate new concrete information or solution guides, but lack of trying isn’t the pitfall.

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      No maybe about it in my experience, I’ve encountered that exact concern hundreds of times, exclusively from people who haven’t tried.

      What concrete information or solution guides are you looking for, the first or second of my suggestions?

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          I wrote out the easiest solution in another comment in this thread.

          If you’re a native English speaker, you can go work for $20 to $30 an hour for 10-20 hours a week a few months and then live for a year or more in dozens of countries on the savings.

          There are many other solutions to quitting working, but that is the easiest one that you can start tomorrow and be finished within 2 or 3 months.

          If you have more specific criteria for quitting working, I can give advice specific to you.

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            OK.

            Geographical numbers vary but let’s say an office worker needs something between 1200–2700 eurodollars per month for expenses. They might have a loan on their housing or they might rent. Maybe they have some hundreds, or even a few ten thousands in savings generating a bit in compound interest. They like to live where they live or live half of the year there and the rest elsewhere or have a few vacation trips. Maybe they’d want to spend the time not working anymore with their family, or enjoy culture, or learn new things, or keep themselves functional by exercising. Maybe they find a volunteer group that does something meaningful to the world which could take time.

            Another case could be some sweatshop worker, where the daily pay is a bowl of food. No cash income, no higher education.

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              Are you trying to ask a question, or referring to something specific?

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                What’s your (or any master/guru you know) guidance for people to stop working. Is it truly catch-all and trying is enough?

                I’m very interested in the topic and love new perspectives

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                  Trying is definitely enough to realize that it’s possible to meet your goals if you know what your goals are.

                  Values determine your goals.

                  My values were maximizing time spent as I saw fit.

                  My goals were to continue all of my hobbies and interests while maximizing time for myself.

                  If that’s all you want to do, if those are the most important things, then it’s pretty easy to achieve that in multiple ways.

                  One solution isn’t a catch-all, but there are so many solutions that you don’t need a catch-all.

                  I’m definitely not a master or guru; i tried a bunch of things to meet my goals and a few of them worked and work for other people.

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                    Personally I’d agree on similar values and goals but my personal anecdote side tracks from the point of an accessible solution to anyone. Even I’m in a more privileged situation than an average human and still have issues with the income-expense equation yet to solve, not for a lack of trying.