btw this got removed on reddit, fuck censorship
They put it back about an hour later
Reddit loves the Ukraine I’m surprised it got removed.
It’s Ukraine, without the article. It’s more respectful towards the country.
Thanks for pointing it out. I always write “the Ukraine” because it’s how we write it in my native language. I didn’t even know in English the article is used for non sovereign counties. It’s really hard to avoid the extra article here, as in for example German, we use “the Ukraine” exclusively, as it’s female. It’s the same with the Netherlands, the Turkey, the Switzerland. Never even heard before this could imply denying sovereignty.
In English it implies it’s a geographical region rather than a nation’s name. The exceptions are for nations that have an adjectival element. The United States, The Democratic Republic of Wherever, etc.
It’s petty semantics that passes by most, but the people that translate Russian official statements in English are aware of the difference and made a point of it for decades specifically to attack Ukraine’s standing in America and the Commonwealth.
Generally speaking, it’s a minor enough distinction that no one would care if Russia didn’t.
The Gambia is an exception, as it is the official name of the country: The Republic of the Gambia.
Yeah, the “the” is Russian propaganda, intended to strip Ukraine if its sovereignty.
I thought they put the article back on reddit…ok I’ll see my self out now.
It is actually Reddit policy about threatening violence and harm to others. But it is silly, because that’s the article title. Perhaps it was removed by automation?
Nah, reddit is an asshole place.
Ukraine not The Ukraine. Its like saying The New Zealand.
Thanks, Republicans. Because of GOP delays, there is insufficient air defense now. Great job, you fuckin fascist supporting assholes.
You can drop the “supporting” part of the fascist supporting assholes.
They are fascists, and they didn’t delay for the fuck of it. They don’t even hide their support of Russia. They are all sedititious fucks.
They 100% have blood on their hands.
Zelenskyy vs Putin, 1v1, let’s see how strong and manly this russian sack of lard really is.
EDIT: Yes, he knows Judo and various other martial arts, but:
- There’s no video evidence of him being particularly skilled in any of these, especially beyond the level of sports-fighting for points.
- For the past 25 years, his image has been inflated by a massive propaganda apparatus
- He’s 71
- Zelenskyy isn’t
Zelenskyy vs Putin, 1v1
If only every war was decided by the two most pompous shitbags slapping each other around, rather than tens of thousands of 20-year-olds getting slaughtered with high explosives.
And everyone he has ever sparred with knew about the dangers of upper floor windows.
Love to see Zelenskyy pull an Indiana Jones and/or Ip Man on his ass.
Counterpoint: he may not be tough, but he definitely knows how to fucking cheat. We should probably have him fight a polar bear just to be safe.
Comrade, why would I put Novichok in your underpants?
Besides, your Polonium tea is getting cold.
Me too buddy, me too.
I understand Zelenskyy here.
He’s being quite restrained here, I think. I’ve been wishing someone would take ‘one for the team’ and try knocking him off for years (along with most of the twats we have riddling our news cycle with their insecurities, like trump, musk, etc…)
Be the change you want to see in the world.
Hell, I haven’t seen any children die and have a strong moral opposition to killing, but I’d take the shot if I had it.
I’m surprised Putin’s villa hasn’t been destroyed yet
I was thinking this today. One of those Cessnas with a fab 500 would do nicely.
I wonder if he has air defense or if they’ve been sent to the front as well
I don’t see anything wrong here, I feel the same
Yeah me too
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I guess it would be cool if nation leaders fought in a ring with their fists instead of sending their people to die, and bombing shit. Putin vs Zelensky, Netanyahu vs Hamas guy. Etc.
You can do eet!
Nooo you’re not allowed to say thaaat wishing harm on Hitler in the 40s should’ve been illegaaal
– reddit mods, more or less
Ukraine should have reestablished their nuclear weapons program and received supplies/support from allies after Crimea and again after Putin’s 3 day war was repelled and the nonproliferation treaty under the Budapest Memorandum was violated by Russia. The only language dictators care to understand is violence or the threat of violence.
Ukraine should have reestablished their nuclear weapons program and received supplies/support from allies after Crimea
The country was ten types of broke before the war even started. You want them to invest billions they didn’t have in a race to enrich uranium they couldn’t access so they could kick off a nuclear war with a country directly on their border?
Fuck it, give em one of our old ones. I’m sure we’ve got some nukes from the 80s laying around.
We’ll just have to track them down, first…
Good news! They’re already in Russia
I’m not even joking, give them a hundred nukes we don’t use. It’ll be a lot cheaper for everyone.
Except Russia if they don’t run away. And the world, but, honestly, this place has seen better days.
If the only point you’d contest is the after Crimea part Ukraine being too poor to do it I’d suggest allies that also signed the memorandum should be helping provide supplies and technical support. I don’t believe any further Russian invasion would have happened under a nuclear armed Ukraine preventing the current conventional war. I don’t think Ukraine owning nuclear weapons would result in a nuclear war because it’s the same deterrent preventing Russia from using them themselves today.
I’d suggest allies that also signed the memorandum should be helping provide supplies and technical support
Wasn’t a major Russian Causa Belli the prospect of a nuclear armed NATO on it’s border?
Ukraine wasn’t trying to join NATO before Russia invaded neighbors including Crimea in Ukraine, and they had signed the non proliferation treaty, including Russia, to not develop nuclear weapons as long as Russia did not invade their borders. If preventing a nuclear armed or NATO allied Ukraine was their goal and Russia invaded Ukraine twice in direct opposition to that started goal that means their stated causa belli was a lie.
Ukraine wasn’t trying to join NATO before Russia invaded
Ukraine’s leaders in recent years have made enthusiastic pleas about their desire to bring the country into NATO — especially current President Volodymyr Zelenskyy, who was elected into office in 2019.
His election came on the heels of a move by Ukraine’s parliament to enshrine the goals of joining NATO and the European Union into the country’s constitution in September 2018.
Three years later, Zelenskyy sat in the Oval Office, meeting with President Joe Biden during an official visit to the U.S., and he told reporters he planned to press his American counterpart on the question of Ukraine’s “chances to join NATO and the timeframe." No timeline or further commitment came out of the meeting.
But while Ukraine’s leadership has directly pressed for membership since at least 2008, it hasn’t always been popular in the country.
Ukraine wasn’t trying to join NATO before Russia invaded neighbors including Crimea in Ukraine,
2018 and 2019 were well after Crimea, and the popular opinion in Ukraine shifted towards NATO in 2008 because of the Russian invasion of Georgia in 2008, one of said neighbors.
But while Ukraine’s leadership has directly pressed for membership since at least 2008
because of the Russian invasion of Georgia
Why stop there? Lets argue about the Winter War.
Nuclear proliferation is certainly not the answer
It’s not proliferation if we give them ones we aren’t using.
It’s reliferation, they used to have some.
It is proliferation because they currently have none and would now have more. Even if not, which nuclear bombs are we “using” right now?
I’m sure sending nukes to a war-torn country will do nothing to resolve the conflict or stabilize the region. Israel is constantly in conflict despite having nukes and other WMD goodies. How could this possibly help? Do you imagine they’d use them? MAD only ensures that nukes don’t get launched. Putins “operation” in Ukraine could continue completely unimpeded
Odd that he so ardently supports Israel despite them mostly killing children.
Thank you for today’s whataboutism!
It’s not whataboutism. Zelensky should have said just Ukrainian children, not any children.
