Frustrations are mounting across southeast Texas as residents enter a fourth day of crippling power outages and heat, a combination that has proven dangerous – and at times deadly – as some struggle to access food, gas and medical care.

More than 1.3 million homes and businesses across the region are still without power after Beryl slammed into the Gulf Coast as a Category 1 hurricane on Monday, leaving at least 11 people dead across Texas and Louisiana.

Many residents are sheltering with friends or family who still have power, but many can’t afford to leave their homes, Houston City Councilman Julian Ramirez told CNN. And while countless families have lost food in their warming fridges, many stores are still closed, leaving government offices, food banks, and other public services scrambling to distribute food to underserved areas, he said.

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    The cause of the problem is of course gay sex, trans people using bathrooms and a lack of guns and bibles.

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    The Harris County Republican Party criticized CenterPoint in a social media post for its “seemingly lack of preparedness.”

    The reason this keeps happening in Texas is republican deregulation though…

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      They can’t keep deregulating if they can’t keep blaming the government. And the more they deregulate, the more that goes wrong, the more they can claim the government wasn’t prepared for.

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        Texas doesn’t regulate their power grid…

        It’s why they can’t connect to the rest of the country’s power grid…

        I’d say someone from Texas should know that, but if y’all did you wouldn’t keep voting Republican >

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          Connecting to any of the other interconnects would make absolutely no difference in this case, where the issue is a hurricane knocked down trees and power lines. The Texas grid has functioned just fine every single day since the 2021 ice storm that landed it in the news. What’s happening here is a local outage like would happen in literally any city that experiences a severe weather event

          Edit: Lots of downvoting but no one explaining how connecting to another interconnect would make any difference at all here. For context, Hurricane Beryl and Hurricane Sandy made landfall with the same sustained wind velocity. Sandy knocked out power to over 6 million people for days in NY and NJ

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          Yeah no shit. But even we can’t stop MASSIVE STORMS from knocking down power lines. It has nothing to do with what grid we’re on.

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            Funny how other Gulf States don’t have serious power emergencies twice a year. The fact of the matter is that Texas has the least reliable power grid in the country, making them the least prepared for any natural disasters. Which is a problem since Texas is the second most prone state to get a natural disaster.

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              Do you? If power lines get knocked down, they’re ain’t gonna be no electricity. What states have “redundancies?”

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                If route A is down, route B is used.

                This is redundancy.

                Texas only has route A.

                That is the issue. Power cannot come from anywhere else than route A because there is no connection to the national grid, route B.

                This doesn’t prevent last leg localized power outages, but it does prevent the widespread grid wide failures Texas regularly experiences.

                But you don’t want to hear this, so go buy a diesel generator instead and enjoy being independent.

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                  I already have a generator. And we are literally discussing the last leg here. Our grid is fine.

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                If power lines get knocked down, they’re ain’t gonna be no electricity

                Unless the grid has redundancies…

                But like, I’m assuming you didn’t mean to use a double negative there?

                I dunno man, I don’t think we’re gonna work this out there seems to be communication issues

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                You’re part of the problem. No matter what breaks down in a Republican system you people do whatever you can to avoid the reality that Republicans are greedy. And their greed hurts you. But sure, let’s blame nature even though no other state has a problem on this scale, this often.

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                  Bro, you think Republicans can control the hurricanes and I’M part of the problem? Y’all people delusional.

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                Literally every state except for texas. The longest power outage I’ve ever personally seen in my entire life was less than 10 hours and that one only affected a couple city blocks. Most power outages in my area last less than a minute because thats all the time it takes to automatically reroute power around the damaged sections. In any reasonably designed grid large scale power outages that last more than a few moments just don’t happen.

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            Maybe you should try nuking them?

            If you KNOW you get massive storms you harden your power grid as much as is feasible to minimize damage. Instead Texas has chosen the path of deregulation in order to maximize profits at acceptable losses. Your loss. Their gain. That’s what happens when the private sector rules.

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            Hmm well Florida seems to do fine with their MASSIVE STORMS, I wonder why?? Hold on, checks notes

            Ah, yup, Florida has a decently regulated electric grid (for now anyways) and is connected with the national grid. Imagine that.

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              Wow, I didn’t know Florida was hurricane proof. I’m pretty sure people lose power when the LINES ARE DOWN in Florida as well.

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                The difference is Florida would have been mostly back up by now from a cat 1, probably 12 hours maybe a day max LMAO

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            But even we can’t stop MASSIVE STORMS from knocking down power lines.

            We could, because we could stop burning all the fossil fuels that are creating the climate change that is causing all the massive storms.

            Think the oil companies in Texas would go for it?

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    It’s a bigger economic problem than people are talking about. I have a manager who works from Houston. He can’t work right now. Several other coworkers as well.

    At some point, employers will have to consider the liability of employing someone in Texas, simply because a power outage could seriously impact them.

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        Florida, all the craziness aside, is actually part of the national grid and, like the other commenter said, usually rebounds quickly.

        Texas OTOH keeps insisting their independent unconnected grid is superior, even though the evidence is stacking quite tall against that claim. If it’s not a hurricane, it’s the heat. If it’s not the heat, it’s the cold. If it’s not the cold, it’s the wind.

        It’s always SOMETHING with their grid, but I’m sure it has nothing to do with their insistence that their grid be independent. It’s all the WoKeNESs that’s the problem!!! /s

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          Although being disconnected from the national grid is a problem. This isn’t the problem this time.

          This was poor preparation and response by the city and power company. We haven’t had proper tree trimming around power lines and there weren’t repair crews staged for this. Not to mention trees dying off from extreme heat/cold then being blown down.

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            This was poor preparation and response by the city and power company.

            You don’t say? Maybe if there were some sort of rules to ensure proper procedures are in place AND being followed. Like regulations or something hmmm

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            A tree shouldn’t be taking the entire grid down…this sounds like regurgitated Facebook bs

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              “A tree” didn’t “take the entire grid down.” A hurricane and thousands of trees took thousands of power lines down, and there are many localized outages interspersed between areas that still have power. “The grid” is fine, individual neighborhoods’ connections to the grid are not.

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                The grid is only fine right now because of decreased load due to outages. When everyone has power again and the load increases they’ll have a different set of problems they’ll end up blaming on FEMA, green energy and hurricanes.

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                  That makes no sense. The Texas grid hasn’t had any issues with balancing electricity supply and demand since the winter storm in '21 that took a bunch of generating facilities offline

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            People are downvoting every comment that recognizes this has nothing to do with ERCOT. They heard about ERCOT in 2021 and eagerly blame it for every power-related issue in Texas, apparently

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              Yup this is the city and Centerpoint that should be on the hook for this

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                At the same time, let’s recognize this was a hurricane, which would have similarly knocked out power in any metro area, and would’ve taken a few days to fix in any metro area. Centerpoint didn’t pre-stage outside assistance like they should have though, but to their very small credit, Beryl’s track changed dramatically from projections over the final 72 hours before landfall

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        Florida rebounds really quick after a hurricane. I do have coworkers in Florida, at most they are out for a day or two.

        It’s been 4 so far for Houston. And I’m not talking a hurricane which won’t impact most of the state, I’m talking about any power outage across the state.

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          I meant Florida is out because most housing insurance companies are leaving the state because they’re losing too much money there.

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          This is an anecdote that doesn’t hold water if you look search for articles about outages in Florida after hurricanes

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      Yeah, red states are very poor, mostly due to their backwards economic policies. I know someone is going to being up that Texas is actually rich over all, but they still have far worse wealth disparities and widespread poverty than a comparable state like California. So they are indeed still a very poor state.

      This poverty is a huge liability. It’s all fun and games complaining about how the gov wrecks everything until you need something like well regulated utilities.

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        Poverty is always a liability. In the healthcare system, poverty raises the costs for everyone else when they don’t get things treated or prevented.

        What bothers me is that there is a whole bunch of financial types who seem to blissfully ignore liabilities. “Those are unrealized costs,” when it should be “those are ticking time bombs.” If you don’t mitigate liabilities like through well regulated utilities those ticking time bombs will always have bigger consequences when they ARE realized.

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      The company I work for has a production and shipping facility down near Houston that has been closed down since Monday due to the lack of power. It’s insane.

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      A lot of inertia at the scale of the bulk of the petrochemical industry.

      I would not hold my breath. Businesses will simply throw technology at the problem until they can’t see it anymore. Was just in a meeting today where the boss was raving about satellite phones solving our connectivity issues.

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        The governor and both state legislative houses are blood red. Love how MAGA pins all the blame for their policies and any Dem that’s around no matter how lowly.

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          I wonder if they’re just pointing out that the victims here are already voting sanely, not trying to assign blame.

          Repubs elsewhere in the state, as all Repubs do, treat disasters as something to ignore or cheer, depending on who the victims are. If they were capable of distinguishing between good and bad governance (or capable of empathy at all), they would not be Republicans in the first place.

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    It sure would be stupid if Texas wasn’t connected to the national grid because that would make solving this problem a lot slower and a lot more expensive.

    Sure would be stupid…

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    Remember this at the next elections, when you will have that incredible urge to not vote or to vote right.

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    But if we tax rich people to pay for services that’s Communism! Also black people would benefit, is that what you want commie?!

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    Will they get angry enough to do something about the GOPers that are causing the problems? Probably not.

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      IIRC revolts are statistically more likely during heat waves.

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        Bro if it’s triple digits and humid I’m staying my ass inside. Reschedule the revolt to a mild day in the 70s.

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    I see a lot of people here blaming the TX grid but not all of Texas is under ERCOT.

    SE of Houston, power is supplied by Entergy Texas which also supplies power along most of the gulf coast.

    Here is a statement from them, “As of 6:30 p.m. Friday, Entergy Texas crews have safely restored electrical power to approximately 199,100 of the 252,460 customers impacted by Hurricane Beryl. We expect all customers who can safely take power to be restored no later than Monday, July 15.”

    These are not TX policy decisions causing these outages. It is simply economical decisions that are made throughout the national grid system to make it affordable to deliver the vast quantities of power that people need at a price they can afford. It’s simply a fact of life that when you have such a powerful storm passing through, any human built system is going to fall to the power of mother nature.

    I was a electrical engineer back in college, so if anyone has any specific things they want to ask, I’ll try to respond.

    I’m not an economist though so I can’t tell you why it’s more important for peoples heating and cooling bills to be closer to $100 a month instead of $300 and why the policy decisions are made to support that. And this is with modest electrical usage setting my AC to cool down to a conservative 78-80 degrees since I’m cheap and want to conserve energy.

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      As a Texan, the problem is we have 0 below ground lines, we don’t stage workers even when we know storms are coming, we don’t require structures to be built in resilient ways (including solar or wind facilities for new builds) and the end result is that our communities aren’t resilient.

      Sure we pay less in taxes (note: if you’re wealthy), but you need a generator and an interlock kit to have the electric uptime other places have. You’re still paying a tax to live here, it’s just not going to the government to give you a nicer community, it’s going to businesses so their execs can get wealthier.

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        We don’t have 0 below lines. Look at downtown houston. They have below ground lines. Look at recent subdivisions in places like Fannett, TX, they are below ground there.

        Are you talking about transmission lines? I’m not sure of any place that runs those below ground.

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          I think they were using hyperbole dude, zero meaning relatively few in relation to whats needed. Its basically the zame as saying fuck all.

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          I was indeed using hyperbole. Med center also has a lot of ground lines. But the vast majority is unmaintained, extremely aged above ground infrastructure. That might be okay if we didn’t live somewhere that gets hurricanes and other severe events, but we do.

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      I was a electrical engineer back in college, so if anyone has any specific things they want to ask, I’ll try to respond.

      Yes, why are phasors so terrible?

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    A lot of sarcasm here, but I fail to see how deregulation or Texas’s separate grid contributed to this problem. I see two main contributing factors:

    The storm wasn’t projected to hit Houston this hard. The projected track had it making landfall way down the coast in Corpus Christi just 48 hours before, and the day before that it was projected to hit Brownsville, a solid 350 miles away. Houston was not projected to be the target until the last minute, so many people were caught unprepared, including Centerpoint Energy.

    Houston’s tree canopy is massive. Sure, Houston has a ton of concrete and deforestation, but it remains on the edge of the Piney Woods, and especially in north and east Houston many areas are completely blanketed in hundred foot tall loblolly pines and sweetgums that are prone to breakage in hurricane force winds. Power lines were shredded, and many homes were damaged by falling trees

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      How exactly do you “see” these factors, are you sure you’re not cognitive dissonancing? Storms change course all the time and those trees have been there for years. Being prepared for the occasional hurricane isn’t profitable.