I keep seeing him but can’t figure out his role in the memes. Is it random like the orb thing?

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    We’re used to people who compete at world class levels having the highest tech, equipment, and perfect poise.

    This guy competed in an extremely casual way, and still won silver.

    It’s just a humorous subversion of expectations, especially compared to some of the other competitors in the same sport.

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      Remember when the Olympics was about sending ordinary people who were good at a skill to compete, instead of a life-long career pushing body and tech to the edge to see who would win the arms race of a sport?

      I don’t either, it’s been a while. As a 70s kid it was the same as it is now, just less knowledge of how to squeeze everything out of an athlete.

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      There’s nothing wrong with his poise. He’s not wearing headgear besides his glasses, but otherwise he’s standing pretty much the same as other shooters. A lot of shooters wear eye shades or visors, but most of them stand like that. You place your off hand in your pocket, and lean back slightly to align the sights. It’s not the first time a shooter’s pose has gone viral for looking like a casual badass gangster.

      see: https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/vitalina-batsarashkina-olympic-shooter-one-hand-stance/

      And here are a bunch more shooters. Note how many aren’t wearing headgear or eye pieces.

      https://img.olympics.com/images/image/private/t_16-9_380/f_auto/primary/aotouao8efquumuiekw6

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        It is such a perfect example of the internet that the woman in this pose is treated like a fool and the man with the exact same pose is some kind of badass.

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          This has nothing to do with male or female. It all started with the Korean women shooter looking badass with all her kit and pose. Then this middle age dad showed up with no kit, regular glasses and shot incredibly well looking like, yeah no big deal.

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            During the Tokyo games in 2021, an image of the 2016 Rio games gold medal winner was posted on Twitter (erroneously being labelled as being from the Tokyo games), and she became a meme for women not knowing how to shoot because of her casual stance, and the subsequent meme for armchair experts trying to mansplain shooting to a gold medalist. At the time, it was a popular meme.

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      Got it, thanks.

      I think my problem is that so many of the mews don’t even reference him being in every man, or not using specialized equipment, they just have a picture of him with no context or caption

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      I find it to be an extremely stupid meme. He lost to someone using high tech shit. I don’t get why people are trying to make him into something more than he was.

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      To be fair though the fancy equipment isn’t giving any sort of advantage or anything. It’s just applying prescription eyeglasses to shooting. Apart from that no difference with other competitors.

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        I’ve seen the photo of the Korean Olympic shooter. That headgear isn’t just prescription eyeglasses.

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          It’s intended to replace prescription eyeglasses because they are inconvenient to shoot with.

          It has the same function, except tailored to shooting (only one eye). So you aren’t getting a noticeable advantage vs someone with perfect eyesight (otherwise it wouldnt be legal at olympics).

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            They also let you adjust the aperture size with an iris and/or apply colored filters! The filters help with the harsh lighting, and the aperture helps reduce strain on your eye. It’s a bit like having a supportive insole for your face.

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                That they even allow acuity correction is different from all other sports. For example my vision is very far from human perfect. 20/20 is average but some people have natural 20/10 vision. Similarly some people are naturally stronger than me but I wouldn’t be allowed to use a passive device (like an arm extension that would give mechanical advantage to throwing) to compensate for my natural average strength.

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                  Right, I mean what sport would use an arm extension for mechanical advantage like a cricket bat, a field hockey stick, a badminton racket, a ping pong paddle, a lacrosse stick, a vaulting pole, a tennis racket, a golf club, ski poles, ice hockey sticks, or curling brooms?

                  If the equipment is available to all, it’s not creating an unfair advantage.

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            It does provide an advantage. One side of the headgear obfuscates vision from that eye so that they can shoot with both eyes open, but don’t have to learn how to block out input from the non targeting eye. The shooting eye lens can be prescription, but the main purpose is to narrow their field of vision, providing increased focus, and essentially becoming a 3rd sighting aperture. They’re legal because all of the shooters have the option to use them, and most do, because they provide an advantage. The Turkish shooter doesn’t use them because he’s trained a lifetime without them and has learned to ignore input from his non-sighting eye. That, combined with his T-shirt as a uniform, and his casual demeanor, is what people find appealing.

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    There’s also a Turkish female pistol shooter with the same style and casual approach: Sevval Ilayda Tarhan.

    Tarhan and Yusuf Dikec together won the silver medal in shooting for Turkey at the Olympic Games in Paris.

    But everybody only talks about the man.

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      She is wearing hearing protection and a tactical looking hat, so there is less of a meme potential as the contrast is smaller.

      Also I read somewhere, that the casual looking stance is actually a stabilisation technique.

      So no mysoginy here

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      Meh. She seems way too focused.

      The guy looks like he does this every day, constantly. Brushing his teeth? He fires the gun. Tying his shoes? He fires the gun. Wiping his ass? He fires the gun.

      Firing the gun is just something he does. He does it a lot. Then one day the Olympics shooting coach showed up and decided to put him out there on behalf of Turkey.

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      !

      Jeez, thanks for sharing that!

      They won the silver medal together?

      Even every single explanation here has just been about him.

      That’s crazy.

      Thank you again for sharing that, jeez.

      She should definitely be similarly hoisted atop their shoulders in these memes.

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          That makes all of these memes way more bonkers than they already were.

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    He’s the Turkish Olympic shooter and just won silver, using no special equipment, and participating in jeans and a t-shirt instead of any national garb.

    And he was aiming & firing more like an executor than a precision shooter, so there were some rumors circulating that he’s an ex-agent or some gangster.

    In reality he seems to be a family father who got pissed during an ugly divorce and started shooting to calm his nerves or something.

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      Didn’t many other shooters stand the same way?

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          Isn’t it the exact same?

          Sorry, is that your joke? Everyone standing the same but he just struck everyone as cooler for some reason?

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        I think one of the differences is how their shoulders are up vs Turkish guys relaxed shoulder gives me an overall more relaxed look.

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    From what I can tell, it’s a juxtaposition thing. Many of the other shooters used in memes have stances that appear outlandish, and have gear that looks a little strange, almost trending towards ridiculous. The man you’re referencing, Yusuf looks incredibly casual in comparison. His stance is at least recognizable as a shooting stance (even if it’s almost appears too casual), his hand is in his pocket, and he isn’t visibly using any of the gear that many other shooters are.

    I haven’t kept track very closely outside of the memes, so I can’t comment on Yusuf’s performance in comparison to the others, but the memes paint his character to be someone that gets the task done with minimal resources, where the others are given the role of a “tryhard” for the sake of the meme.

    Evidently the imagery of these competitive shooters resonated with enough people that Lemmy had a small breakdown, but I always love to see my Lemmy feed trend into one topic for an evening or two. We all remember the beef stroganoff incident.

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      And orbs, apparently?

      Okay, thanks, I’ll try to understand the memes in that context, they are not clicking for me yet.

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        The head on picture is reminiscent of gangster movies, and his gun doesn’t seem to have a brightly colored barrel. So the picture itself looks like someone off the street aiming near the camera in a casual looking stance. Very gangster looking compared to the other colorful uniforms and pistols in the comparison shots taken from the side.

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    The dude was a fucking Chad that’s why. No specialized equipment. Casual demeanor. Didn’t even close one eye. Still won silver.