And if something did maybe happen, it’s the CIA’s fault

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        most communities on ml are fine tho, also I got banned on hexbear because I called the CPC (their official name) CCP

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          The admins are tankies. It’s just better to avoid it. The smaller their communities the more of a joke it is getting banned for writing a fact.

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        Genuinely there are a lot of people that would like that. Maybe start with a community first before an entire instance.

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        lemmy.world is basically that. You’ll get the most concentrated socdem/socialist engagements without traipsing into hunny-cum-shot territory.

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          So those people calling it neoliberal are fucking liars

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            The people who think .world is socialist also think socialism is when the government does things and that social democracy is a type of socialism and not a type of liberalism.

            This is especially evident the way they get whipped into a froth any time actually existing (and former) socialist countries get brought up.

    • I don’t know if this is the case for other apps or anything, but on Jerboa I end up seeing blank posts (like a post but without any user or instance attributed to it) that just say “there is no record of this comment” whenever it’s someone I’ve blocked.

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            Then that would be .ml users. Semantics yes, but considering that .world never federated with Hexbear, I feel it relevant for accurately describing things.

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              hexbear.net is known for discussion of what goes on in the rest of the Fediverse (I went and found a recent example to show you: https://hexbear.net/post/3645205). Whereupin people with accounts that are able to often brigade places that if we take the narrowest view of who “hexbear” users are, they would not have access to. It just goes with the territory of (a) being passionate about a subject, along with (b) caring not in the slightest bit about the consent of the recipients.

              I myself have multiple alts, and went to some trouble to ensure that it is barely recognizable which I am using (identical name and icon). I started on Kbin, and before it went defunct it got slower and slower so I switched to StarTrek, but it got slow for a bit too so now I made my final home on Discuss.Online. And when possible I will love to try out Sublinks, and probably I’ll try Piefed too then.

              If someone switches from their hexbear.net account, where they heard about this post, to their Lemmy.ml one for the express purpose to downvoting and trolling this post with their “commentary”, I would call those hexbear users. If you read hexbear posts, it won’t be all that long before you find people not only admitting but being outright proud of doing precisely that. Here’s a very tame one to get you started: https://hexbear.net/post/272530, here’s another: https://hexbear.net/post/277508, and another: https://hexbear.net/post/280770, and there are links from there and available by searching.

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    You know those tanks were trying to leave the square, right?

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    The chinese narrative isn’t that nothing happened, it’s that there was a battle outside the square, including protesters lynching and burning cops and cops gunning down unarmed protesters on bikes from their trucks. This is corroborated by videos and pictures.

    The western narrative of tanks going into the square and gunning down tens of thousands of protesters (after getting delayed by tank man) is blatantly false, as you can see in the uncut tankman video pans over to show the square the tanks are leaving was empty except for some bikes.

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      “After several weeks of standoffs and violent confrontations between the army and demonstrators left many on both sides severely injured, a meeting held among the CCP’s top leadership on 1 June concluded with a decision to clear the square.[15][13][14] The troops advanced into central parts of Beijing on the city’s major thoroughfares in the early morning hours of 4 June and engaged in bloody clashes with demonstrators attempting to block them, in which many people – demonstrators, bystanders, and soldiers – were killed. Estimates of the death toll vary from several hundred to several thousand, with thousands more wounded.[16][17][18][19][20][21]”

      When you go to Wikipedia, click on those numbers in the brackets

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        As I said, there were clashes at major thoroughfares surrounding the square, there was not tanks gunning down masses of protesters inside the square.

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          Who said anything about tanks shooting people? Did you just make that up and denied it yourself? Lmao.

          Student protesters where shot up and killed. Indiscriminataley. I could not fucking care less what type of pew pew was used.

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            It’s what I learned in highschool and I see it repeated every time this discussion comes up, that there were a bunch of peaceful protesters inside the square, and tanks came over, machine gunned them, then ran the bodies over.

            There’s a huge difference between protesters lynching some cops and other cops responding with indiscriminate murder and the military murdering everyone because they dared protest.

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      Like clockwork you’re here to deny the many atrocities of authoritarian despots.

      What do you even get out of constantly getting your metaphoric-cock beaten into the dirt 2 dozen times a day?

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      You’re never going to convert sinophobes. It’s like trying to convert white supremacists, except even more unlikely to work since there is zero pressure to not be sinophobic in society.

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        Can you please be a moron in silence? Or go be a moron somewhere else.

        “These people”… Lmao

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            Quick, hop onto a sockpuppet account to make yourself seem less brain damaged 🤡

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            Yes, I did. Tianmen square massacre deniers make me mad.

            It should make you mad as well, if you were a decent person.

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              Wikipedia indicates there wasn’t a massacre in Tiananmen square: “Several people who were situated around the square that night, including former Beijing bureau chief of The Washington Post Jay Mathews[f] and CBS correspondent Richard Roth[g] reported that while they had heard sporadic gunfire, they could not find enough evidence to suggest that a massacre took place on the square”

              “In 2011, three secret cables from the United States embassy in Beijing agreed there was no bloodshed inside Tiananmen Square.[244] Instead, they said Chinese soldiers opened fire on protesters outside the square as they fought their way from the west towards the center.[244] A Chilean diplomat who had been positioned next to a Red Cross station inside the square told his US counterparts that he did not observe any mass firing of weapons into the crowds in the square itself, although sporadic gunfire was heard. He said that most of the troops who entered the square were armed only with anti-riot gear.”

              While they do provide sources that say the student death toll was likely high, most sources estimate around 500. (Again, not in the square itself)

              I’m just trying to be factual- the students were funded and supported by Western forces including the United States, probably not to help the students and spread democracy and capitalism, but to create division. The students clashed with China’s fucked up communist government and military. There’s not too many possibilities when a civilian force clashes with a state military.

              I support you if you oppose China’s actions here, I just think saying there was a massacre in Tiananmen square is insincere.

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        No nuance, only china bad evil commees who kill their own people because they hate freedom.