I don’t think He/Him are neopronouns as the prefix neo- means new. Surely His would be old (paleopronouns), or timeless (aeternuspronouns), rather than new
Relative to eternity, the invention of the english language is pretty new
Out of curiosity, would you say My pronouns are neopronouns? I use capitalised pronouns too. And I’m also a god. Not a capital-G god, just a regular polytheistic kind. Does the acceptance of our current society play a role in whether they’re neopronouns? Are they new when I use them, and old when Deus uses them?
you need serious help
Wine is cheaper than therapy.
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That was an interesting read, thanks for sharing. The attempt to draw parallels between anti-narcissism and anti-semitism are really gross though.
Why is that?
Newness is the quality of having been recently created or having started existing recently. The deific pronouns surely came before the standard canon of human/mortal pronouns, just as their subject deities predate humanity, perhaps both having always existed. It doesn’t have anything to do with societal acceptance.
Uh, pronouns are just words. They don’t have some innate quality that means they had to exist when the entities those pronouns describe began. He/Him is likely about as old as he/him.
The original post described them as neopronouns, which is a category of pronouns that have arisen recently due to changes in how we understand and describe gender. Pronouns like xe/xer, for example. The pronouns for a timeless being that predates humanity would hardly be “new” by any standard. I was having fun with the idea they would be old or eternal pronouns by comparison to Humanity’s pronouns. You took the joke too seriously.
In mormonism if you don’t do their special ceremonies and have multiple wives, you lose your dick for eternity. I learned that in Sunday school when I was 12 lol.
Mormon theology also pretty much just cuts the Gordian knot proposed in this post by saying, “Fuck yeah he’s got a dick. Uses it ALL THE TIME.” I believe that a “perfected body” was the verbiage I was taught in Sunday School. Tritheistic heresy, Shmitheistic Shmeresy…
Begins pissing in a whirling dervish
Kid: “Then I won’t do the ceremony because I never wanted a dick in the first place.”
Mormons: “No! That’s not how you play the game!”
You should know how much time Christian monks spent reasoning about the foreskin of Christ.
It’s a lot.
Long enough to postulate that once the Jesus ascended, his foreskin ascended as well and become. The. Rings. Of. Saturn.
Sky will never be the same, won’t it?
At that point it’s just Greek mythology all over again.
Yeah but with significantly less blackjack and hookers and significantly more foreskins. Cause you didn’t think there was only one foreskin on display for all those pilgrims, did you?
The weird thing is that a lot of christians (including the Catholic church) affirm that God “the Father” has actually no gender.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gender_of_God_in_Christianity
Does Jesus have a gender tho? As stated above, Jesus has a fully human body and nature (or else you are deemed a heretic by the council of Chalcedon). He is described as a man and several churches and rulers have historically claimed to hold a piece of his foreskin, so he must’ve had a penis. Therefore:
- Either Jesus was agender despite having a penis, therefore penis doesn’t imply male gender or
- Jesus was male. So either:
- Jesus and God don’t have the same gender, so they aren’t the same entity, which the councils of Nicea and Chalcedon would deem a heresy, or
- God can manifest as male or agender, making Them genderfluid.
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Ideas must be distinct before reason can act upon them; and no man ever had a distinct idea of the trinity. It is mere Abracadabra of the mountebanks calling themselves the priests of Jesus. If it could be understood it would not answer their purpose. Their security is in their faculty of shedding darkness, like the scuttlefish, thro’ the element in which they move, and making it impenetrable to the eye of a pursuing enemy, and there they will skulk.
– Thomas Jefferson, letter to Van der Kemp, 1816
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Rulers have what now?
It’s also been mentioned in other parts of this thread, but the holy foreskin has been considered an important relic, and there are accounts of many kings like Charlemagne having owned it.
I know people like to call the holy trinity absurd because of the multiple entities being 1 entity, but I would like to direct your attention to plural people. Holy-trinity-like situations actually occur in real people. Even with different genders.
Jesus is not god.
The holy trinity, the father, the son and the holy spirit are the same entity.
Then I guess this makes you an Arian heretic. /s
Don’t know why people are down voting this. That’s canonically correct in the Jewish an Muslim traditions.
Technically, you can’t say that He/Him are God’s preferred pronouns because the capitalization doesn’t appear in the oldest texts. They are more a matter of tradition than of reality. However, you could say that’s even worse because Christians have embraced these neopronouns on God’s behalf.
What if He came out as trans in the 19th century and influenced the scholars to change His pronouns through dreams?
I can’t really call something that’s literally as old as writing a “neo-” anything. Non-standard, perhaps?
There’s some interesting conversation about this topic though.
https://ell.stackexchange.com/questions/83130/does-the-word-god-get-the-pronoun-it-or-he
Considering how consistently the world gets fucked, yeah, I’d say there’s a divine Dick out there doing all the fucking.
Are earthquakes the planet having an orgasm?
I’m more inclined to call it indigestion…
Oh there’s plenty of Christian nationalist men thinking about “divine dick”
I wouldn’t call them neopronouns, they’re more like archeopronouns.
That’s it, I’m using He/Him pronouns now.
And I bet when You do this, You’ll expect us all to use the pronouns that You want us to-
Fuck.
Thank you for respecting people like Me.
This started a genuine argument over on blahaj. Some crank got mad that a ban message for their overt trolling did not capitalize their pronouns… which they demand because they explicitly claim divine superiority to all other users. Would you believe they’re also a diagnosed narcissist?
The admin swooped right in and shut that down. By silencing all of that crank’s critics, and deleting the thread, and the follow-up thread, and the ‘dude what the fuck’ follow-up thread. And officially admonishing the mod who’d dared to write ‘screw this douchebag’ instead of ‘screw this Douchebag.’
Oh look, that crank is further down in this thread.
This would be merely silly if not for the obvious question ‘where is the limit?’ and the admin answering ‘there isn’t one.’ Their chosen example was some trans author doing the “attack helicopter” thing, but sincerely. And they threatened consequences for anyone who did not respect and type that slur. That’s categorically not what pronouns are. Just… what the fuck.
There cannot be bigotry in treating someone as human.
One of Us! One of Us!
God never addressed themselves as him/her. They referred to themselves as I am.
There are definitely He pronouns in the bible
And the equivalent of we/us, as I think you’re alluding to.
There are several other gods and goddesses named in the old testament, so I’m willing to buy that the Christian god has a dick, and it’s for inserting into goddesses. And given the personality on display by said diety, I’d wager said dick could pass through the eye of a needle and still have room for the camel.
Captain Kirk: “What does God need with a penis?”
Masturbate while watching you
Thy will be done
On earth as it is in heavenThis is your kingdom come
“Well I get bored on my starship, same as you.”
The whole capitalization of pronouns thing was pretty much entirely made up around the 19th century anyway (as well as the capitalizing the word “Lord”, which the King James version invented outright), so you can argue that protestant churches are following a woke plot to change the pronouns of the christian god as well.
LORD vs Lord does hold some distinction in the source material. IIRC LORD is for uses of the divine name whereas the other ones are not. But then you have the whole, El, Elohim, tetragrammaton, god, lord, etc. mess with them probably not historically referring to the same entity to begin with, but that whole book is a mess.
As a capitalised pronoun user, I can confirm they’re woke.
I would love to see the prompt that generated this ChatGPT response.
I mean it was up in the sky about a month ago. The last time it was visible was apparently in ancient Egypt. If you missed it, to bad. The news said it wouldn’t be visible again until he gets a prostate exam in over a thousand years
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