• PhilipTheBucket@ponder.cat
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    2 days ago

    What on earth did sh.itjust.works do?

    I saw that Beehaw defederated from them, and it’s just confusing to me. There’s all kinds of weird nonsense coming from lemmy.world, that defederation makes complete sense to me, but… what did sh.itjust.works do? They seem fine.

    What are the toxic communities? Did I just miss them so far? I really don’t understand.

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      SJW hosts two communities that probably generate 99% of the issues/hate our instance gets: NonCredibleDefense, which is basically just edge-y military shitposting, and this community which is entirely based around making fun of tankies.

      In NCD some of the takes can be really hot, but I’m usually pretty sure it’s a joke. Sometimes it can go too far, though.

      This com is fine idk. Unless you’re a tankie and you come here to read about yourself getting mocked, I guess.

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        Tankies are allowed in this community so long as they can behave

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          15 hours ago

          I didn’t mean to imply they aren’t allowed- just that I don’t think anyone would really consider this community an issue unless they’re a tankie that’s mad about being mocked.

    • Blaze (he/him)@feddit.org
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      2 days ago

      For Beehaw, it’s for historical reasons. In June 2023 LW and SJW became the largest instances, and hence had the largest number of toxic users. Beehaw estimated that the moderators were not doing enough to moderate those users, thus defederated.

      If you look at Beehaw, they are still on 0.18.3. It’s unclear whether they will switch to another software like Piefed or Mbin, but they don’t want to update to the latest Lemmy versions.

      Being defederated from LW and SJW cuts them from most of the users and content, but they seem happy that way.

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      My understanding is that we had open registration and that led to a very small amount of spam posters. Apparently we were a moderation concern.

      I’ve certainly downvoted people in this instance but I can’t remember the last time something particularly egregious occurred

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        I never understood why people are so quick to defederation. The block button seems to work for me.

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      Beehaw defederated from everyone and wanted to become their own thing. Didn’t work out well for them. I joined beehaw initially and then got banned after I commented on a post asking how queer people feel about queer movements. I said pride today is largely just advertising and virtue signalling instead of actual activism, that I only ever had my sexuality questioned by queer folk as opposed to religious or straight folk. I got banned. Anyone commenting anything negative about their experiences also got booted.

      SJW is more of a moralist community with some conservatism, at least from my experience. Back when it was popular, everything was driven by community input and voting.

      I’d like to move this community to .world since it’s larger, but there’s no way to transfer communities and I don’t think the Lemmy devs are quite willing to add any such feature

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        .world is a little too block/defederation-happy. I moved from .world to SJW because they blocked a piracy community.

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        I’d like to move this community to .world since it’s larger, but there’s no way to transfer communities and I don’t think the Lemmy devs are quite willing to add any such feature

        Please don’t. LW centralization is already quite bad, and prevents Aussie.zone from staying uptodate

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      NCD has a user that promotes the use of illegal chemical weapons. This screenshot comes from a thread where we were discussing federation where these posts are saved to servers we pay for. This isn’t fair and toxic that we are targeted like this.

      This isn’t funny. Nobody is subhuman and nobody deserves to suffer in a gas attack and this isn’t something that we want on our server. We do not deserve to be targeted and mocked like this for posting online or opinions. We wanted to have a discussion about it and instead people posted it immediately on a meta community to manipulate votes and opinions.

      I am not a tankie but I do not need to silence them or mock them this community and targeting people is extremely toxic.

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        This screenshot comes from a thread where we were discussing federation where these posts are saved to servers we pay for.

        Uh. That literally comes from a thread on chemical weapons in the US Civil War and somebody discussing whether chemical weapons are actually effective. I’m starting to think you’re not arguing in good faith.

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          It doesn’t fucking matter what context they support the usage of chemical weapons, especially when you have a high visible community promoting defense spending and military.

          How empty and pathetic is your life? You are targeting people for no reason for harassment because they don’t agree with you? You think this is OK? This is extremely toxic behavior and it is hard to believe you are an adult and you act this way. Fuck all the way off and leave me and my friends alone.

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            How empty and pathetic is your life?

            Uh, sorry that you don’t like it when you blatantly lie and are called out on it, lmao.

            It doesn’t fucking matter what context they support the usage of chemical weapons, especially when you have a high visible community promoting defense spending and military.

            Literally isn’t about supporting the use of chemical weapons at all, but I suppose literacy is too much to ask, lmao.

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        I can see that. I never messed around with NCD for this exact reason, but I viewed them as an outlier on SJW, mostly.