Need to let loose a primal scream without collecting footnotes first? Have a sneer percolating in your system but not enough time/energy to make a whole post about it? Go forth and be mid: Welcome to the Stubsack, your first port of call for learning fresh Awful you’ll near-instantly regret.

Any awful.systems sub may be subsneered in this subthread, techtakes or no.

If your sneer seems higher quality than you thought, feel free to cut’n’paste it into its own post — there’s no quota for posting and the bar really isn’t that high.

The post Xitter web has spawned soo many “esoteric” right wing freaks, but there’s no appropriate sneer-space for them. I’m talking redscare-ish, reality challenged “culture critics” who write about everything but understand nothing. I’m talking about reply-guys who make the same 6 tweets about the same 3 subjects. They’re inescapable at this point, yet I don’t see them mocked (as much as they should be)

Like, there was one dude a while back who insisted that women couldn’t be surgeons because they didn’t believe in the moon or in stars? I think each and every one of these guys is uniquely fucked up and if I can’t escape them, I would love to sneer at them.

Last week’s thread

(Semi-obligatory thanks to @dgerard for starting this)

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    Orange site envrionmentalism:

    Lawns are functional though, they aren’t just a status symbol.

    I grew up with a mossy front yard, and I have clover and ferns in my current yards to compete with grasses; there are better options, my dude.

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      They can be, but they can also be a social and recreational space.

      Your mum’s a social and recreational space, but I don’t see you going to bat for her despite being more useful

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    today’s a fucking trip and a half

    in a mall I saw some Honor laptop[0] ads with “AI” pitch sauce slathered all over it

    later walking between art galleries I saw a roadsign ad for a property sales company promising “more effective strategies using AI” (more effective strategies for… selling… houses…? I guess…? (x up for doubt))

    and now I get this shit in my mailbox from someone who absolutely purchased a dataset with this address in it:

    From: Ai Everything GLOBAL <newsletter@event.aieverythingglobal.com>
    Subject: Join the AI Elite—G42, TII, DIEZ, Dell & More!
    

    [0] - I didn’t even know they were in ZA, but nope, 2-floor hanging banners and ads allllll over elevator doors and shit

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    Personal rant: in my ongoing search for a replacement for ProtonMail after they pivoted to AI had me almost sign up with Tuta because, hey, they looked good and were on my radar originally anyway, when I found out that they do not offer any IMAP/SMTP access at all.

    I mean, I get it, their whole thing is privacy and, yes, storing mail locally on my machine kinda undermines the idea of strong and impenetrable E2E encryption, but I should at least have the choice like I do with Proton Bridge. Because without SMTP Tuta is completely unusable for git send-email. I mean, yes, technically I could copy-paste the output of format-patch into the web client but, first, I am lazy and don’t wanna do that, and second, from my experience it rarely works anyway because the clients do some encoding crap so that git am doesn’t eat it without cleanup.

    Meh. I guess I have to keep looking.

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      huh, I just switched to Tuta and that’s a very good point — there isn’t even a command line mail client, much less an IMAP bridge. the official word from a couple years ago is “write it yourself but we don’t support automated email” which is several kinds of wrong

      so far I’m not hating Tuta but it’s definitely much jankier than Proton. I’m kinda surprised I’ve heard good things about Tuta’a UI compared with Proton — it’s faster, but functionality so far varies from somewhat barebones to mildly broken

      no regrets on the switch on my end so far though, but this might come to bite me at some point. I wonder if a dedicated transactional mail provider could alleviate some of the pain? I can DM you a recommendation for a good one if that seems like it’d be handy

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    Ah, copilot is so extremely popular that MS has decided to bundle it into O365 for free a moderate “depends by region” price increase

    I’m sure that’ll totally make people want it even more! hordes at the gate!

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    “brb going to make an AI blockbuster called ‘Zennos Parhadox’ starring Dwynne Johnson and Rebeca Fernugson and then we’ll see who’s laughing.” – Dick Trauma, SA

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      Wild that “We left OpenAI and founded out own company with alignment and safety”-Anthropic decides to get into bed with Palantir of all companies.

      It’s almost as if their whole safety shtick is complete bullshit. Hmm.

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      1. Buy a defense ai system with a cool GUI but that absolutely doesn’t fucking work

      2. PRESS RELEASES

      3. Leave the source code+model weights somewhere that your enemies will find it, preferably next to a big data pipe

      4. Watch them copy it and try to use it on the battlefield

      5. lol

      Just have to avoid naming it something that would give the game away like WIM-PLOW or whatever

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    My hope is that either more progressive third party options become more viable OR the dems finally understand that being essentially republican is a bad strategy and actually become progressive. I know the reality is that the dems will learn nothing from this as they have clearly learned nothing from 2016.

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    The worst part about Trump being president is Trump being president for a year. The second worst part is Vance being president for the next three (after Trump dies of heart failure). The third worst part is the fact that I’ve been owned in a way I can’t even explain to my closest friends.

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        Most likely. Backing out of international obligations and supporting fellow authoritarians seem to be pretty consistent aspects of what passes for MAGA ideology.

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          i guess this depends on how much vested interest (monetary) he has in MIC

          trump seems to treat nato as america’s weapons shop buyers club

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      The third worst part is the fact that I’ve been owned in a way I can’t even explain to my closest friends.

      Oh god, this so much. Well, third worst for me personally, as a non-American white guy. I suppose Palestinians, Ukrainians, and marginalized groups in the US might have a few issues they’d rank higher.

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    re: election results. unfortunately i’m not surprised or even disappointed by now. it makes me feel sad for my 2015 self and her naivete. she didn’t understand what a disgusting and evil culture she lived in

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      The American electorate has just covered itself with gasoline because eggs cost 2 dollars more. Come January they strike the match. gg. HATE. LET ME TELL YOU HOW MUCH I’VE COME TO HATE YOU SINCE NOVEMBER 5TH. My only consolation is that I’ll hopefully get to watch some of the Magas/non voters/vote-your-conscience peeps suffer before the end. But Ol musky and peter thiel will be in their gilded bunkers while the fires consume us all.

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      The level of fucked we are is too big for words

      I wanted to say something darkly comedic about the AI bubble popping under the new regime, but my heart is too sick to make a joke

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      I think I’m more angry than anything. l hadn’t realized how tight my media bubble had gotten and was pretty sure this wasn’t realistic. I had gotten myself ready for another round of 2020 nonsense and denial, not this.

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      Nashville, here. I hear ya.

      I don’t know what else to say, I can’t explain any of this, but also please know that you’re not alone out there.

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      I don’t have too much coherent to say right now

      fuck the fascists for what they’ve done and what they intend to do

      fuck the neoliberals for doing their best to convince marginalized people that they shouldn’t defend themselves against a terrible fate

      fuck the accelerationists for pumping shitheaded propaganda into the fediverse, for the victory lap they’re taking now, and for the general idea that their revolution is worth our deaths

      shit’s about to get very hard and very weird and I can’t stress enough how important it is to be careful who you trust with your life

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        fuck the accelerationists for pumping shitheaded propaganda into the fediverse, for the victory lap they’re taking now, and for the general idea that their revolution is worth our deaths

        So much this

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        what a surprise, the thread all the leftist shitposters on mastodon boosted about how you’re a class traitor if you don’t vote for the Green Party (who I don’t buy as socialist) or “any other socialist party” (fucking who??? am I supposed to write “socialism” on my ballot in crayon???) conveniently went missing

        anyway post your favorite fuckhead accelerationist here, mastodon’s a shooting gallery tonight

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          i do love how the “anti-imperialist” protest vote against harris was a choice between like three or four putin apologists. the state of the US left is really fucked up and i don’t want to look at it ever again.

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          The bad guys have definitely learned a new sort of trick. Haven’t wrapped my head around it yet, but it is bad, innit?

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            Apologies for the screed:

            Quick recap:

            2016-2020: executive orders every day, non-elected positions being captured by conservatives, dems just hand-wringing and tweeting. but Dems get lucky with a pandemic and trump loses

            2021-2024: weekend at biden’s.

            Where was the election reform? The dismantling or reform of the electoral colleges? The extra seats on the SC? Bribing the public with stimulus packages to boost the economy?

            Remember when we pushed Biden left? Remember when the dems preserved abortion rights, prevented the invasion of ukraine, and stopped bankrolling Israel’s genocide?

            “exercise your democratic rights and voice by voting for our candidate that wasn’t democratically chosen as our candidate”. “vote blue and do not voice any critical thought”. “any vote that isn’t for the party that didn’t meaningfully reverse or prevent conservative actions is a vote for trump”.

            In sum: the bad guys didn’t do anything new.

            The closest we got to a trump loss was some republican spook who went to a trump rally with a gun because it was closer than the harris rally.

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              The thing that’s most baffling to me is how the difference in ground game had zero impact. We were pounding the pavement, doors got fuckin knocked. The GOP did less than zero, firing their entire staff responsible for in-person outreach and gave 100 million to PACs run by grifters who put it directly into their own pockets.

              Unless we’ve missed a trick, retail politics as it has existed is dead.

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                Dem talking heads spending so much energy courting moderate conservative votes was an excellent way to demobilise their base. They really gave their all to lose an election that should have been a free win.

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                  This wasn’t a free win, however. The reason Harris took over in the first place was because Biden’s performance in the debate was poor enough that the Democrats thought there was no longer any chance with him, and this was already with lowering approval ratings. Had he stayed, I bet Trump’s victory would have been even wider.

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                  I mean, I don’t think it was unreasonable to expect liberals to show up against someone who’s sole policy proposals were mass deportations and political reprisals, and so I can understand the logic of focusing on the center (which in US politics means center-right).

                  But this being the democratic party, they also couldn’t commit to an actual narrative to make that play. Rather than “look at their ties to Big Tech!” or even sticking with “look how weird these people are!” they had to go hat-in-hand and stake themselves to divisive (to say nothing of abhorrent) policies because that’s the only connection they could try to make. I think we’re seeing a major problem with the whole “big tent” concept.

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                It was twitter. Elon Musk joins Trump’s team. What happens? Harris’ chances begin to drop.
                Trump did lose support, but there was probably enough propaganda on Twitter to make enough people go “both sides” and just sit out the election.

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                  and of course, Twitter and Facebook style influence campaigns work just as well or even better elsewhere, in communities that haven’t hardened themselves against that type of bullshit

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                  IDK, do you really think twitter still has that much cultural relevance? ugh

                  I’m sure it played a part, though.

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          anyway post your favorite fuckhead accelerationist here, mastodon’s a shooting gallery tonight

          I’ve intentionally been avoiding feeds the last few days because I just do not have the headspace for it, but I quickly checked on shit now

          and

          fuck

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          Didn’t the Green Party woman also just go ‘I’m pro Israel’ the day for the election or so? Which I think is one of the reason she might have picked up a few moves (the idea she might be more pro gaza I mean).

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        I can’t stress enough how important it is to be careful who you trust with your life

        strong agree

        minor upside: it’s going to be a good time to make lists of people who suddenly feel comfortable to mask off

        fucking fuck this sucks

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          minor upside: it’s going to be a good time to make lists of people who suddenly feel comfortable to mask off

          correct. keep receipts.

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      Yeah this is fucked up. I feel so bad for everybody (esp the Americans, but this will hurt the world). Shit this prob means I should start looking into seriously helping out locally when all this explodes into more international shit. (Which imho is the best you can do anyway, do things locally, build a bit of a support network for your community).

      (Note I’m not American, but I think this will end badly, just the fucker stepping out of the paris accord for example, and all the weird blowhard fascists this will make feel emboldened to do more politics locally).

      E: I really hope the people who go ‘this is the same as in 2020, wait till all votes are counted’ are correct and not on hopeium.

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        Well, it’s more like 2000, really, in the sense that the courts are being used to restrict voting rights. There’s strong evidence of flagrant UOCAVA violations: thousands of absentee ballots which should affect the federal election have been challenged in swing states. Edit: Here is part 1 and part 2 from an attorney whose Pennsylvania UOCAVA ballot was challenged; he goes through the law and explains what he’s going to do.

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        yes, i am. i’ve been plotting to get out for years but i’ve been too depressed since my partner died to make any progress tbh. i’ve no idea what to do

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          I would suggest Canada, but we’re set to get our own Trump in power in about a year or so. Too many people looking on the house on fire and thinking that pouring gasoline on it is the best solution.

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      “Our mission at Mozilla is more high-stakes than ever,” wrote Syed in an email to staff, a copy of which was shared with TechCrunch. “We find ourselves in a relentless onslaught of change in the technology (and broader) world, and the idea of putting people before profit feels increasingly radical.”

      “which is why we don’t”

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        last I saw that wasn’t really well-insulated from upstream’s bullshit

        one of the recent things moz pulled ended up enabled in librewolf on basically the same day/timeline