unfortunately Cleese in his elder years hasn’t really moved with the times. While this quote is fairly right-on, he’s also said a bunch of fairly right-wing crap too.
Edit: Didn’t know about his other views. I no longer consider his views forgivable.
He is remarkably progressive and lucid for his age, so I’m inclined to cut him some slack for the topics I wholeheartedly disagree about with him.
For example, his support for Brexit I find hard to forgive… but unlike most of the ghouls that supported it, he seems genuine in his opinions and remains at odds and vocally against the Global Far Right.
The guys is openly transphobic, is part of the whole “comedy is ruined because if woke” crowd, is anti immigrant and anti-muslim and like you said, is pro brexit, but you want to cut him some slack because he’s “genuine” in his transphobia and xenophobia???
Shit, first time I read the bit about transphobia. That is awful. Apologies, I don’t follow this crap close enough, consider my previous comment about cutting him some slack retracted, fuck this guy.
I think he was more like a moderate, unironical centrist. The people he hung out with (rest of the Pythons that is) were more progressive which probably caused some sort of social contagion on him as long as he was with them.
Also from Hagakure (though I know it from Ghost Dog: The Way of the Samurai):
Among the maxims on Lord Naoshige’s wall, there was this one: “Matters of great concern should be treated lightly.” Master Ittei commented, “Matters of small concern should be treated seriously.”
Monty Python is good even when it’s serious.
unfortunately Cleese in his elder years hasn’t really moved with the times. While this quote is fairly right-on, he’s also said a bunch of fairly right-wing crap too.
OH WELL HE’S OLD THESE THINGS HAPPEN
Edit: Didn’t know about his other views. I no longer consider his views forgivable.
He is remarkably progressive and lucid for his age, so I’m inclined to cut him some slack for the topics I wholeheartedly disagree about with him.
For example, his support for Brexit I find hard to forgive… but unlike most of the ghouls that supported it, he seems genuine in his opinions and remains at odds and vocally against the Global Far Right.
You kidding? He’s been railing against woke etc. He’s on the right of UK politics. Would probably be further if it was acceptable.
A very funny and clever man during his youth. That guy is gone.
What??
The guys is openly transphobic, is part of the whole “comedy is ruined because if woke” crowd, is anti immigrant and anti-muslim and like you said, is pro brexit, but you want to cut him some slack because he’s “genuine” in his transphobia and xenophobia???
Shit, first time I read the bit about transphobia. That is awful. Apologies, I don’t follow this crap close enough, consider my previous comment about cutting him some slack retracted, fuck this guy.
Well that sucks. I don’t really follow the stars or British politics, so I missed that. Disappointing.
If Terry Gilliam is an asshole I dont want to know about it.
Oh dear.
John Cleese is not transphobic nor xenophobic.
yes he is, both.
I think he was more like a moderate, unironical centrist. The people he hung out with (rest of the Pythons that is) were more progressive which probably caused some sort of social contagion on him as long as he was with them.
I think he was being serious when he did this bit: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eZ4fyWhp-KM
Reminds me of a famous quote from Danish humorist Storm P:
“He who understands humor as only humor and seriousness as only seriousness has misunderstood both”
Also from Hagakure (though I know it from Ghost Dog: The Way of the Samurai):