• Scott_of_the_Arctic@lemmy.world
    584·
    7 hours ago

    A month ago or there abouts, someone posted the statistical breakdown of voting in the last election to Reddit. In the swing states (only the swing states) there was a larger than normal number of ballots where the only thing voted on was the presidential election (Ie not senate or local things). He proposed that Elon had used data from his lottery to select people who he thought were in it for the money and wouldn’t actually vote and voted on their behalf. He made quite a compelling argument.

    • Serinus@lemmy.world
      202·
      6 hours ago

      That was complete bullshit. The numbers didn’t check out. The “only swing state” thing wasn’t true and it was pretty easy to verify.

    • Anti-Face Weapon@lemmy.world
      301·
      6 hours ago

      I remember reading about that too, but it seems kind of contrived for two reasons.

      First of all, we all know it’s very easy to lie with statistics. Even if the statistics did seem damning (which is debatable when I read it), that could be from manipulation.

      Second, the scheme described would fall apart completely with even a SINGLE recount in ONE swing state. Even just a county wide recount would make the whole house of cards fall apart.

      The fact that the current administration has done nothing about this, despite access to some of the best data, analysts, and intelligence in the world, seems to imply that it is most likely not true.

      • quixotic120@lemmy.worldEnglish
        19·
        6 hours ago

        On the last point there is a precedent to not bother when the Supreme Court is stacked against you, and the Supreme Court of 2000 was outright balanced compared to the kook show of today

        When George w won Florida under fairly suspect terms in 2000 gore pushed it a bit and probably should’ve pushed it more. The recount was sketch as fuck, the margin was literally like 500 votes for the entire state, it was later found that a bunch of counties never actually did the recount, George’s brother was the governor, his cousin at Fox News made the first call that Florida and the election went to him, just a lot of fuckery all around. And there was a lot more to it than that but that’s the stuff they couldn’t bring up in court for various reasons.

        Gore pushed back and went to the Supreme Court with it and lost.

        So say there was strong evidence beyond major statistical anomalies. Do you think the stacked court system isn’t going to do everything possible to shoot down anything possible to actually litigating it? The democrats are well aware the only chance they would possibly have is if they literally had the most airtight evidence known to man of fraud, like elon himself admitting fraud with all the receipts to back it up, and even then they’d probably hit some kind of roadblock

        Anyway I think what people are referring to is this letter about bullet ballots:

        https://substack.com/home/post/p-151721941

        It’s an interesting point that is unverifiable and could only be investigated by the current admin but see above. Given they only have about 5 hours left and frankly trump has been acting as president since he was elected anyway I don’t think it would matter even if the above was moot

      • Zagorath@aussie.zone
        5·
        6 hours ago

        First of all, we all know it’s very easy to lie with statistics. Even if the statistics did seem damning (which is debatable when I read it), that could be from manipulation.

        Fwiw I recall seeing someone make the same analysis about high numbers of President-only ballots, only they reached a much less conspiratorial conclusion to explain it. I forget what the explanation was, but if multiple different people are analysing the same data in the same way, especially if their explanation is different, it lends credence to the idea that the analysis itself is fair.

    • SatanClaus@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
      10·
      6 hours ago

      I recall seeing something similar to that but never being able to find anything vetted on it.

      Id hate to sound like an election conspiracy theorist but there was a lot of conversation around star link and it being used for the voting machines. Another thing I personally was never able to confirm.