Our poll results show that only a minority of you want the thinner phones that Apple and Samsung are promising.

  • Ulrich@feddit.org
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    51 minutes ago

    Let’s see, decreased durability, decreased battery life…what are the advantages again?

    That being said AA should (and probably does) know better. Their audience is not representative of the typical consumer.

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    2 hours ago

    Not very impressive when you also make it longer and wider. You’re just pancaking the phones.

    Were in desperate need of a small thick, emovable battery / sdcard pocket rocket.

    • njordomir@lemmy.world
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      12 minutes ago

      My Oneplus 6, Oneplus 9, and Pixel 8 Pro are all around the same size. The best one from feel alone is the OP6 because it feels solid and it’s a bit heavier. Lighter and thinner are way less interesting to me compared to the possibility of 3 day battery life, a headphone jack, or modular construction.

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    3 hours ago

    True. I want a bulky ass phone with more power, more storage, more battery life, and more accessory compatibility. I want a BRICK

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    4 hours ago

    I’m going on 9 years with this current phone. I want my next phone to last double that, at least.

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      4 hours ago

      Wow, what phone is still working fine after 9 years???

      I feel like 5 years is generally the upper limit of usage due to battery issues, spontaneous hardware failure, slowness due to advancing tech standards, etc. A user serviceable device would be able to help with some of these things but still…

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        3 hours ago

        It’s a Samsung A5 (not Galaxy). I didn’t really think much of it when I got it, and it started to slow down a few years ago, but I just keep clearing space to speed it up and it just keeps working. Would probably last 2 full days on the battery, so never have to think about that as long as I charge it over night. Not to shill, but at this point I’m rightly impressed. It just works.

        Some apps like Slack have stopped working on it, but nothing that would make me switch to a newer phone.

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      5 hours ago

      I would also like a phone that doesn’t fall out of my hand because there’s not enough of it to actually hold on to, and what there is is polished completely smooth.

    • Tower@lemm.ee
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      5 hours ago

      Agreed. Make the phones ⅛ in - ¼ (3.18mm - 6.35mm) thicker and use all the extra space for a bigger battery! Virtually everyone throws a case on their phone anyways, so it’s not going to be a very noticeable size difference anyways.

    • 𝕸𝖔𝖘𝖘@infosec.pub
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      8 hours ago

      and (I’d like to add) the ability to change said battery when it, inevitably dies, and the I also want a minimum of 6 years of security update.

      • killingspark@feddit.org
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        8 hours ago

        Also, I absolutely do not need the newest shiniest hardware. I want something that can handle WhatsApp/Signal encryption. YouTube playback would be nice, doesn’t need to be 1080, 720p is absolutely enough on a phone. And frigging security updates for more than a few years. Can we please figure this shit out.

  • BorgDrone@lemmy.one
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    6 hours ago

    Slim phones are coming, but most of you don’t want them

    Our polls show that, if anything, you want thicker phones.

    Yeah, some poll on a site for tech nerds is not really representative of the general public. Thick phones with huge batteries exist and they sell like shit, it’s a super niche market.

    Expect these thin phones to sell like hotcakes.

    • RisingSwell@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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      3 hours ago

      That’s because everytime I see a thick phone it’s the size of my arm. In the same way a wafer thin phone is shit, so is 13 bricks glued together vertically.

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        A wafer thin iPhone won’t be shit though. It will be slick as shit. Sure, there will probably be compromises and it won’t be suitable for the most demanding users, but most people aren’t that demanding of their phone. As long as it manages to get through one day it’ll be good enough.

        Don’t underestimate how important the size, weight, build quality and design is to the user experience. I have a 13” M4 iPad Pro which is also crazy thin yet feels absolutely solid and that makes it look and feel like a magical piece of technology. It has a huge impact on how it feels and that is ultimately what matters to people. Not the specs or the benchmarks, but how it feels to use it.

        • RisingSwell@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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          2 hours ago

          If it’s wafer thin it isn’t going to fit the battery I want it to fit. Thin, yes, wafer thin no. I understand size matters which is why the 20,000mah battery phones aren’t good either. iPad isn’t a fair comparison to a phone, more battery space

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            If it’s wafer thin it isn’t going to fit the battery I want it to fit.

            Personally I don’t care about the size of the battery, I care about how long it lasts. There have been rumors that Apple is working on improved battery tech. Their SoCs are also crazy efficient and super fast.

            What I expect to happen is that they will equip the iPhone Air with this next-gen battery tech (probably not a massive improvement, but something like 10-20% more energy in the same volume would already be a big win), combined with a throttled down SoC with fewer cores (still plenty fast for anyone but the most demanding users), that will allow them to reduce power usage by a lot. Add to that the already excellent power-management in iOS, maybe tweaked a little more aggressively, and they’ll have a phone that’s super thin and lasts all day.

            People will hold this phone for 3 seconds and be sold.

            • RisingSwell@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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              1 hour ago

              A 20% improvement on batteries wouldn’t make it wafer thin though. I get your point about how long it lasts being the part that actually matters, I just don’t see us having phones people want to use that can last a full day and are that thin. At least not anytime soon.

              People right now buy phones that have way way more performance than they’d ever need, all the time, I don’t expect that to change for the general market.

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    10 hours ago

    I want a small screen (about 5"), headphone jack, and unlockable bootloader. That’s all.

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      6 hours ago

      Replaceable screen and battery. Actually being able to drop in a new radio would be nice too. I only gave up my op7t because no 5g.

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        2 hours ago

        What benefits are you seeing from 5g? It’s obviously faster, but I rarely find myself bandwidth constrained on my phone.

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        9 hours ago

        Almost all the modern flagships have this garbage glass panel on the back that’s slippery and can break when dropped. I just don’t get it.

        • med
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          I bought the dbrand grip for the last 3 phones I’ve had, and it’s always been a great choice for me, highly recommend; but I shouldn’t have to spend $60 and increase the thickness of the phone by nealy 20% just to be able to hold on to the damn thing.

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          8 hours ago

          Yeah it became luxury products so basically fragile and not daily-use friendly

    • jol@discuss.tchncs.de
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      6 hours ago

      That’s what I don’t get. If they can make a phone that is thinner but lasts 2 days, why not double the battery and make it last 4??

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    8 hours ago

    I’ve got the newest Samsung and it’s already so slim that the cameras are sticking out.
    And so slippery that I don’t dare use it without a case, defeating the entire purpose.
    I’d rather have a thicker phone with more battery life and space for more than just a USB-C port.

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      8 hours ago

      I recently upgraded my Pixel, and the old one is sitting on my desk. I took the case off and put it down, and without it, it just slides right off the desk and hits the floor! It’s ridiculous!

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    10 hours ago

    People are still gonna bolt a protective case, screen protector, popsocket, magnifying glass, and a hairdryer to their phone so what does it matter?

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      10 hours ago

      Same thinking here… who can afford a phone without proper case. That case adds bulk and provides option for whatever thickness.

      With that being said why not make battery biggers. I don’t think i ever heard anyone say they needed thinner phone…

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      0.5 + 0.3 < 0.8 + 0.3

      what kind of argument are you making, wtf

      Let’s just make all phones 5cm thick, obviously it doesn’t matter?

      Obviously thinner is better if you don’t have to compromise on anything else

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    8 hours ago

    If the slim phone has a camera bump then is not longer slim and I’m not interested.

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    8 hours ago

    I just want this with modern security updates, unlocked bootloader and enough performance. That’s it. Small screen FTW!

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    10 hours ago

    Plus it means they’ll definitely have an inaccessible battery. More of that is the last thing many people want.

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      But it’s what certain fruity company and its Dieter Rams wannabe designer in chief made into a trend (along with soldered memory slots and other abominations) because aEsThEtIcZ - despite its implications not only on repairability but sustainability.

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        Well yeah and it’s why I’ll never buy a phone that isn’t sustainable. These companies are a poison to our world. It’s just very disappointing to me how few of us have a shred of integrity. It’s so sad and sickening.

        The two big leaders Apple and Samsung they’re leading the way in the poison the earth brigade. And in these times all the assholes who talk about climate change yet use a ton of non-sustainable tech because it’s enjoyable…. They all sicken me and I have no respect for a single one. I’d just as soon they all drop dead.