• Soulg
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    23 hours ago

    That’s a personal choice that people are allowed to make for themselves.

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      22 hours ago

      That misses the question a bit, no? Everything that is wrong to do is a personal choice. It’s not relevant to whether or not it should be done

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        10 hours ago

        Not really, some things are objectively bad and wrong and other things are merely subjective.

        The problem we’re having here are people who hold their subjective beliefs very strongly are then adamant that it makes said beliefs objective, just because they believe them.

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            9 hours ago

            There is none. It’s just my view based on how people see things. You’re allowed to not agree, it doesn’t have to be combative.

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          even things like killing being bad is not objective in my opinion, it just simply stems from our minds and societies’ process of growth through natural selection.

          We believe that killing is bad only because we share the majority of their DNA and we are close genetically to what we’re killing. It was evolutionarily incentivised to not kill those that are genetically close, as they and we share common ancestors from which such thoughts evolved.

          this is imo why we value humans more than other animals, animals more than vegetables and relatives over strangers. Friends being valued more than strangers make sense as well, as they share ideas in the place of the shared genome.

          in a wider scope none of this matters anyway, our lives and deaths are irrelevant to the universe and our lives don’t actually matter outside what our minds tell us.

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            9 hours ago

            Yes, killing other people is objectively bad. Thank you for agreeing with me.

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            15 hours ago

            Could you tell me how you measured that badness and how I can repeat the experiment?