Ya’ll, ice enforcement vehicles have run-flat tires. This would work on a fleet car, but those aren’t labeled, they’re just cars.
Never throw a sharp piece of ceramic at a car window it will shatter the windows.
Definitely don’t do that. Rapidly letting all of the air out is VERY VERY LOUD. Instead, “do not” have a valve stem tool in your pocket and DEFINITELY do not barely loosen the stem core so that it leaks out slower but much more quietly, allowing you to be long gone when they “go flat”.
Anyway don’t do this to old, low-end cars. If that person’s driving a 15 year old Corolla then they probably can’t afford a brand new Tesla. As much as we’d like everyone to drive an EV, single moms tend to prioritize feeding their kids.
Agreed. SUV’S though, independent of its age
As it is currently, electric cars are worse for the environment because we all decided electric cars are basically the iphones of automobiles.
They are riddled with planned obscelence and proprietary hardware. Theres not a chance in hell these would last longer than 10 years.
Meanwhile ICE vehicles can easily last decades if well cared for
I’m not shilling ICE vehicles, but stating the fact we NEED right to repair before we adopt electric vehicles on a large scale.
Remember that capitalism WANTS our belongings to break, and WANTS to infinitely produce, and WANTS us to infinitely consume.
Aside from the batteries needing to be replaced at some point, electric vehicles should far outlast their ICE counterparts. A significant breakthrough in batteries could make that well worth it.
I’d love a right to repair, but also prefer to just get rid of capitalism. Not that these have to be mutually exclusive.
Yes, EVs should outlast ICE (excrept maybe the motors) but as it stands now, if theres something wrong with any of thr electronics it just won’t work, and you need to get it repaired, with special proprietary parts, from an official dealer ship and charges eye watering prices, so thr cars end up in the junkyard cause its too expensive to repair, and it becomes e-waste.
I think the caption refers to Immigration and Customs Enforcement, not Internal Combustion Engine.
Ohhhhh that makes so much sense now! Here I was thinking this was some radical pro-EV group going out there making it happen!
It wasn’t, but now I want it to be
That was a remarkably calm comment considering the read intention is creating thousands of unsafe vehicles on the road along with other drivers and pedestrians.
Yeah I was perplexed (hence feeling the need to comment) but lemmy never ceases to surprise me!
Alternatively, you don’t want to get busted for destruction of federal property:
https://www.autozone.com/tire-repair-and-tire-wheel/tire-valve-stem-core-remover-tool
These can be found as cheap as maybe $1, and by just removing the cap, you can simply unscrew the valve stem and walk away, replacing the cap. It does no long term or meaningful damage to the vehicle (unless they drive on the flats), and you can easily attach it to a key chain so you always have one with you.
I mean. If you think you couldn’t be successfully prosecuted for smudging the paint intentionally, that’s pretty naive. If the current admin wants to make an example of people caught fucking with ICE vehicles, your advice here isn’t gonna make a meaningful difference. But I agree that this is a clever way to accomplish the goal without actual damage.
Oh 100%. I’m not going with this method primarily because I don’t think I’m going to get prosecuted. The plausible defense is just a co-benefit. These fuckers would probably trying and prosecute if you even look at their rig.
No the valve stem remover approach is superior for several reasons.
First, foremost, it affords an attack of opportunity. Just throw this fucker on your key-ring. You do not need to plan shit. You aren’t carrying something that could in anyway be construed as anything other than what it is. Its about as damning as having a bottle opener on your key ring and some one accusing you of drink driving because of it. You never know when inspiration and opportunity are going to take to the dance floor. Fortune favors the prepared mind.
Second, and almost as important as the first. Its subtle. I don’t even need to take the whole core out. I can just loosen it a bit so it creates and almost inaudible leak. So what if it takes 10-20 minutes to fully deflate? Even better. I’m long, long gone by the time that its even noticeable. There is another below about using a knife or slashing a tire wall. Which is like, fine, but thats gonna be loud, its gonna be immediate, and its gonna be obvious. You aren’t going to get two of that job done. And the valve stem puller? I can do it again. And again and again.
Well hell yeah and not naive at all, cheers!
Alternatively, if you don’t care about committing crime, slash the side walls instead. This is not repairable and much more expensive to replace a tire than a valve stem.
Stabbing the tyre itself is a gamble in terms of safety. Worst case the tyre basically explodes at you. cutting the stem doesn’t risk the tyre zippering from a failure point, and is definitely the preferred method.
Feel free to stab and slice the sidewall once the pressure is released if you want to make the repair as expensive as possible
Its also potentially slower, and definitely louder. I’ve never tried to bust through the side wall of a tire, but I’m gonna bet that even the side wall material is as tough as… well… a tire.
To get around that you might consider a bit of engineering. Tires effectively “pull” the road beneath them. If there is anything between the tire and the ground, it gets pulled first until the ground is met
A simple piece of bent metal cut into a 90 degree bend, with a rugged metal hook on one side, could easily be wedged between the tire and the ground in such a way, such that when the vehicle is being put into motion again, the forward rotation of the tire “drags” the metal spur into, and across the side wall of the tire. Basically bend the metal to a 90, cut a hook into one side, and wedge it in parallel. Once they roll out, the wheel pulls the hook across the side wall using the force of the transmission, and you can be very far away.
Obviously this would take more work, foresight, and maybe a bit of engineering and testing, but its worth keeping in mind.
At the end of the day however, its almost trivial to throw a $2 tool onto a key chain you are already carrying.
Speaking from experience a sharp knife will get the job done. Or a sharp punch and a hammer if you don’t have the arm strength to get a knife through the sidewall.
Also, just a side note it was funny you mentioned a bent piece of metal with a hook on one side. I was on a road trip with my family as a teenager when we hit something that took out 2 of our tires, one on my aunt’s car who was following us and about a dozen other cars. We were stuck so I ended up changing probably 5-6 tires for other people while we waited for a tow. While I was at it a dude pulled up and was like “Want to see what you hit?” and had almost exactly what you described in the back of his pickup. So… yea very effective lol.
Speaking from experience a sharp knife will get the job done.
How loud? The loudness to me is the biggest concern.
Depends on a number of things like how much air pressure, how big the hole is, shape of the hole etc. I would say generally quieter than pulling the valve core.
Depending on the tire pressure? If it’s above 30, it’s going to be loud enough to be heard if someone is within a hundred feet. If they’re inside a building, you’d probably be mistaken for something else going on in the building. A knife into a 40 PSI tire is enough to make your ears ring for a second or two.
I think the SUVs they’d be using are going to be somewhere in the realm of 35-50. Tahoes were around 38-40 when I drove one.
Always choose the right tools for your project.
I like the thought process but I still feel like those motherfuckers would get you for destruction of federal property if you got caught doing this.
Yeah and a not insignificant chance of them shooting you.
You can always lentil-bean them too!
As an EV driver I was very confused at first. I know they arent great for the environment but that seemed extreme.
Then I realized what you meant.
I thought it meant internal combustion engine too lol
…what else could it mean?
U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement. The post is in response to Trump’s mass deportation efforts.
Ohhh, thanks. I’m in the EU so I don’t keep entirely up to date with the crap abroad, gotta think of my mental health lol
I live in the US currently and unfortunately filter out most of it for the same reason too. I’m already outraged and terrified etc, might as well save some coping skills for other things.
Or you could put a small stone in the valve stem cap and twist it on just enough to slowly leak.
Takes a bit longer but it’s going to hit a while from now, maybe while they’re driving.
Read that on the internet, did you?
I believe I am, for all intents and purposes, the actual originator of that trick (in terms of publishing it on the internet, anyway). You have no idea how much it warms the cockles of my twisted little black heart to see that someone else posted this before I was able to.
As a fellow internetor, I find this extremely hard to believe, but if it is accurate, hell yeah, keep fighting the fight
Does it actually work, or is it one of the hundreds of internet tricks that keep getting reposted because they sound like they would?
It does, if performed correctly. You can tell by giving the stem a listen. The escaping air will be quite audible.
So our independent lab testing on our own private vehicles in controlled conditions reports, anyway. My lawyers told me to add that last part.
Yeah except for all you’ll do is give them a blowout on the highway putting other innocent peoples lives at risk.
This is an absolutely retarded way to vandalize someone’s property.
It’ll take a couple minutes for the tire to be completely flat. If they drive past that, they’re not making it to the highway. If you’re doing it on a car that’ll drive away within minutes, there’s likely an agent nearby and you’ve got bigger problems.
It can take hours or days for a slow leak to become noticeable.
Where do you get the notion a tire would be flat on minutes from a valve stem leak lmfao?
We’re not talking about a slow leak, were talking about putting a pebble (or lentil) into the valve cap and screwing it on. That pushes down on the valve, opening it up. I’ve personally witnessed that at a protest, being done to some idiot who was honking and insulting people walking by. A group of people walked up to his car and did exactly that, by the time police where interviewing him a few minutes later his tyres where noticably starting to flatten.
Here’s a video demonstrating the process: https://youtube.com/watch?v=K0fq_kJHIWw
What you’re saying produces a slow leak.
Why lie that it deflates in minutes? Go do it to your tire, a pebble that fits in, can only produce a slow leak. Now removing the entire valve stem core and removing the cap, that’ll deflate it in about 10-15 minutes. That’s still vastly longer than the claimed “minutes”.
Post a video, prove it dude. So removing the core and cap takes over 10 minutes, but somehow magically a pebble reduces that to minutes? Prove it dude, your anecdotal evidence is clearly a made up lie.
The air is like a flock of sheep - as soon as one finds a way out, they all immediately rush out too.
Even a tiny nick on the stem, the tyre would be flat before they’ve fastened their seatbelts.
That’s not how tires work at all mate….
Yes, yes it is. The tyre is at a higher pressure than the atmosphere so any hole will allow the air to equalize but the difference is how that air comes out:
Stab the sidewall (big hole, rapidly) air rushes out with a big bang.
Snip the stem, smaller hole, air rushes out slower but still very quick. Likely flat in under a minute. Different structure/strength that sidewall which is why it doesn’t pop/explode.
If you get a puncture, the reason it doesn’t leak as fast as snipping the stem (nor pop) - usually the nail/screw is still in the tyre, keeping it plugged somewhat, the distortion of the tyre under weight means this hole can open and close as the car rolls letting out a little at a time.
Source: have had punctures that take hrs to run flat, have watched tyre techs clip stems on an old tyres, seen videos of tyres being stabbed.
https://youtu.be/0E-z3DTdpKU?si=PKt0P4yDyi8XfLdn
See the slow leak a pebble provides?
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You keep using that word. You know which.
Stop.
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They aren’t defending the suggestion. They are taking issue with you using a medical condition to insult someone’s intelligence.
Ableism isn’t OK.
How is it ableist to call a mentally challenged solution retarded…?
I never insulted anyone’s intelligence.
It’s retarded to stare at the sun during an eclipse, stating that isn’t ableist. That’s all I did.
“retarded” is a medical term for intellectual disabilities. That’s why it’s not allowed, “stupid” would have been fine. I’ve asked the main mod to explicitly mention it in the rules to avoid confusion in the future.
It’s retarded to stare at the sun during an eclipse, stating that isn’t ableist. That’s all I did.
Superglue the stone into the cap. That way it’ll keep deflating the tire until the cap is replaced.
Buy a pack of valve caps. Super glue stones in them and carry them around. When you see ICE vehicles, replace their valve cap for yours. Repeat as necessary.
I bet if you bought real nice ones they’d let you do it.
You want the generic black ones that you can find anywhere. That way they can’t trace the purchase down to you.
And remember to bleach your tracks. If they figure out what’s going on, I guarantee they’ll try everything from fingerprints to DNA on the caps, and even if the majority of the time the heat/vibration/dirt of the cap’s environs is enough to remove your traces, you don’t want to be on the long tail of that curve.
That’s some big brain shit right there.
For the love of god don’t do this, you might kill someone.
Them slowly getting a flat is not going to cause an accident. The low pressure warning is gonna come up well before anything dangerous actually happens
Probably still not going to cause an accident, but not all vehicles have low pressure warning systems. My car doesn’t.
They all do. Maybe not an LED, but I promise you’ll get a warning anyway as soon as you drive.
Most do, obviously excepting older vehicles. It’s mandatory per Federal law in the US since the 2007 model year, and I believe the 2014 model year in the EU.
Still, in the nearly a century prior people managed to deal with unexpected flat tires and slow air leaks even without such electronic geegaws just fine.
Fair enough but still it’s not gonna be like a blowout
Eventually it might because we’re human, cheap and, stupid.
- tire is slowly deflated
- driver doesn’t notice it and drives on the flat damaging the sidewalls or driver does notice it but drives on the flat anyway to get to safety/a repair place
- reason for deflation is found and corrected.
- tire with damaged sidewall is refilled with air and driven on.
- At some point in the future, under stressful conditions that the tire normally could handle the sidewall gives out in a catastrophic blowout.
Lol, it’s a government vehicle. I’d be willing to bet that warning is on all the time. The sending units are integrated into the valvestem and cost a lot more than old school valvestems.
Even retail they’re only like $25 a pop, which granted is more than the buck-or-less of a normal rubber valve stem but probably pretty negligible if you’re on a government budget. They’re less in bulk. The real bitch is you need to dismount the tire from the rim to get at it, then remount and balance it. And then get the vehicle to learn the new sensor ID code which for some vehicles can’t be done onboard and requires a separate gadget.
This is property damage, you’ll get a misdemeanor if they want to charge you. Owning a tire valve core tool, removing the cores, and placing them on the tire is only criminal mischief. Don’t forget to put the valve stem cap back on for more fun!
Just back 'em out slightly. It’ll take them ages to figure it out.
Would a Molotov cocktail through the window also work?
For getting the air out of the tire? Sure, probably. Eventually…
Superglue a BB in the cap
criminal mischief
Sounds like something a rascally little ragamuffin would do in a 1950s comic book 😄
An ICE is a train 🚆
Waterboarding in Guantanamo Bay with the ICE men sounds super fun, if you don’t know what any of these words mean.
Internal Combustion Engine actually
People really like ICE acronyms, huh
Some trains integrate an integral combustion engine.
Strangely, ICE trains don’t.
i love destruction of property.
If you’re going to destroy property, go arson a large business or something. Not your neighbors car lmao
The meme is about ICE the immigration control assholes, not ICE as in internal combustion engines. Your neighbours’ cars are safe.
Unless they work for ICE
it’s referring to the other ICE. like, Immigration and Customs Enforcement
Now this is good info, lol
This is lib shit.
If you’re going to do bullshit that will get you shot, at least make it worth it.
Putting minorities in camps is fascist shit.
If you’re going to do bullshit that will get you shot, at lease make it worth it.
What’s your big idea?
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