• 474D@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    10
    arrow-down
    1
    ·
    edit-2
    5 hours ago

    Nicotine itself is hardly worse than say caffeine. But obviously the negative effects of burning and inhaling a cigarette (with all that it contains), especially the carcinogenic agents, is absolutely stupid to think it’s an even trade to pump your workout

    • unwarlikeExtortion@lemmy.ml
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      4
      ·
      1 hour ago

      Oh, nicotine is way worse. It may not harm your health directly, but addictiveness is exponentially worse.

      Wikipedia: Dependence and Withdrawal: Moderately physical dependence and withdrawal symptoms may occur upon abstinence, with greater than 100 mg caffeine per day, although these symptoms last no longer than a day

      Wikipedia: Nicotine withdrawal Symptoms are usually strongest for the first few days and then dissipate over 2–4 weeks (…) In a minority of smokers, cravings may persist for years.

      • Ms. ArmoredThirteen@lemmy.zip
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        7
        ·
        4 hours ago

        Nicotine is water soluble. You can take a wet tobacco leaf off the plant and it’ll soak into your skin and get you a bit buzzed (or in my case when I discovered this mid harvest if you touch enough it’ll get you massively high and nauseous). Imo one of the best ways to get some in relative safety is grow your own, they’re really easy, and just put a leaf under your tongue for a bit then spit it out

      • Comment105@lemm.ee
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        2
        ·
        3 hours ago

        Nicotine in comparable or larger doses from non-toxic or much less toxic sources is arbitrarily limited for stupid reasons.

      • Barbarian
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        1
        ·
        4 hours ago

        I smoked for pretty much my whole life. Quit with varying degrees of success many many times. I switched to nicotine pouches 2 months ago, and it’s been fairly great at reducing the damage of cigarettes while not dealing with the actual addiction.

        Still need to watch out for gum recession, so it’s not exactly 100% healthy, but smoking causes gum recession anyway and I’m not destroying my lungs anymore, so pretty solid for harm reduction.