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    6 days ago

    why didn’t you go with induction?

    My European mind cannot comprehend buying a gas appliance in 2025.

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      Honestly, it didn’t even occur to me to consider induction. It’s not because I’m pro-gas/anti-induction. The precious range was gas and my thought process went, “fuck I gotta buy a new range how much is this shit gonna cost me since I can barely afford to exist as it is in this fucked up nation (USA), let’s go to big box hardware store website and see how big a hoke a new gas range will burn in my pocket.”

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      I am in EU:

      1. Preference. Some people dislike induction due to worse cooking quality.
      2. You need to buy shit cimpatible with induction
      3. I thought about induction. Was enough for electrical installation in my home to catch fire. And I only semi-joke, because the bitch did catch a fire. I’d neew to invest in rewiring to be able to use induction.
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        Induction doesn’t cook worse than gas. That’s just decades long gas industry propaganda. Induction, and even just resistive electric, is so so much nicer than gas. It’s crazy how people have been literally gaslit by gas companies.

        The only things not compatible, at least the vast majority, are cheap aluminum pans. When we made the switch, all the pans were owned were compatible.

        Wiring and cost are the only valid reasons not to go with induction.

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          Heh, you see…I don’t have slightest idea. But everyone I know who can actually cooks swears that gas just cooks better. Taste wise. And a lot of these people didn’t hear the propaganda, that’s just their own experience. I talk about both professionals and casuals. Effin weird.

          My theoriy is that induction does change taste, not much but enough for people who know what to look for to notice it’s different than home cooking. Thus evoking feeling of something being amiss and thus making stuff iffy.

          And a lot of households where I live still have incompatible cookware.

          But overall, I am on your side, I’d love to have induction but again…wires + fire = bad :<

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            5 days ago

            As a semi professional cook, let me assure you it doesn’t change the flavor. I could talk about this for a long time.

            The gist of it is this. Old electric cook tops, the crappy coil kind, really did suck. And at that time, gas was far better. But things have changed. Cooks, like so many other professions, hold on to old dogma and do not like letting go.

            Add on top of that gas industry lobbying and advertising, and you get myths that stick, and stick hard.

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              As a professional chef, you’re right about the flavor part. The main reason that I prefer working on a gas burner is that I can gauge the heat coming off of the burner based on the size and appearance of the flames and temperature changes happen more quickly.

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                While on the surface, that is true, it’s also true that for the most part, it comes down to learning your particular equipment. You know what your stove is going to do based on which pan you use and what the flame looks like. And it’s basically the same on induction. You know that if you put it on a specific setting with a specific pan what it will do. At first, it might be weird and confusing not having that visual feedback. But you still get all of the other feedback you normally get.

                And here’s a big one! You get extra feedback when you aren’t using gas. You can actually smell what’s going on in the pan. With gas, the fumes go up around the outside of the pan, cover up, and carry off the smells from the pan. That was something we didn’t think about when switching from gas to induction, but it’s something my wife noticed and pointed out to me.

                I could go on about induction for a long time. I think it is hands down better. For background, I’ve always had electric stoves, and found the newer glass top style to be perfectly adequate. We bought a bed and breakfast that had a gas stove, and I was really excited to “upgrade” to gas and I was shocked at how much I actually hated using it. We had a cheap induction burner from Amazon for years and liked it a lot, so we decided to get an induction stove and it’s been amazing.

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              Thanks for PoV. Now I know what to think about this even less!

              Still want an induction tho.

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      I switched to induction a couple months ago. Holy shit. It’s the best stove I’ve EVER used in my life.

      It heats faster and has better/faster responsiveness than gas or standard electric.

      And the best feature? It’s resistant to that stupid fucking black burnt crap that you have to scrape off. I’ve been cooking with mine for months and nothing NOTHING has been able to get burned onto it from water to cheese spills to tomato sauce spills it’s all just come up with the standard nightly “spray and go”. Every stove I’ve ever had before usually has at least a couple burnt spots by now.

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        This. Since the glass itself doesn’t get hot, nothing really burns onto it. I’ve had mine for a few years now, and it’s as shiny as the day I bought it and it’s so easy to clean.

        The only thing I miss is that you can’t use a wok, and the buttons to control the temperature are very sensitive if anything spills on them it will beep a couple of times and shut down. You need to dry it and power it up again.

        Oh and depending on your cookware, it sometimes does this electric hum, my wife doesn’t appreciate it but I seem to be immune to it, so your mileage may vary.

        That’s the full disclosure in case anyone’s considering switching. I’m super happy with mine, it’s the best stove I’ve had and I had all kinds, gas and electric.

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      I’m intrigued by induction but I just had a new gas stove installed because I grew up with shitty electric and gas feels so much nicer.

      I also had to replace the granite because the new cooktop was an inch too big on either side. Oof.

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          Nice. I technically have two cooktops (main one and a kind of weird 70s indoor grill that we never use), maybe if I get rich I’ll replace the second one with an induction. Just have to run a 240 line to it, which isn’t a big deal since I have drop ceilings in the basement.

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            you can buy one of those induction hotplates if you want to try it out

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        Listen, I used to be the same, gas=best, electric if you had to, but induction changes the game. With a fully efficient pot, you can literally watch water boil, it’s that fast. And they’re SO MUCH easier to clean!

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        Very nice! I love darker countertops because they mask spills and I’m messy

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      Depends on what you cook. I’d never want induction for Asian cooking. Gas is the best for cooking with a wok. All you need is a wok ring to swap out the flat grate.

      However induction is pretty great for European cooking, simmering sauces and stuff.

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    Don’t you need a professional to change a gas driven appliance? How did you make sure there wasn’t any leakage? 🤔

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      Not necessarily. I didn’t feel like paying $50 for someone to connect a gas line.

      I used thread tape and after connecting the gas line I listened and smelled for a leak. No noise or smell. All good.

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      Hahaha. House was built in the late 1800s. Not sure if it was built with that hardwood, but that hardwood has seen some shit. Including:

      • The house being moved to its current location, (which is a big reason the floor looks jank. The house settled and like most old houses is crooked as fuck, causing some gapping in the floor boards)
      • Seven or so layers of linoleum that I had to remove along with several subfloors piled on top of those linoleum layers
      • And, no joke, I pulled over a thousand staples out of the wood flooring in this house.
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    Hobbyist cook here that owns one of the best duel fuel ranges (gas top, electric oven) on the US market. A Wolf DF304 and yes, I’m damn proud of it. It is by far the best cooking range I have ever used. Unlike its predecessor, a Dacor RSD30, it has stood up to very heavy use over the years.

    I love to cook with gas. I have cooked on resistive electric and they are terrible.

    With that said (induction supporters, it’s time for you to just wait a bit, I know you’re just cracking your knuckles to put me on blast).

    My next range, or cooktop will be induction. A friend of mine has an induction cooktop that is comparable to Wolf. It actually is pretty nice… For the most part. My issue with induction really is not how it cooks, but rather the weird noises that will sometimes come from either the cookware, or the cooktop itself. It’s a high end induction as well (Viking I think). So I’m not talking about some cheap stove from a box store.

    But as far as how well it cooks, I really do like induction. It does all the things that gas does well; instant temperature control, gets really low for simmering, gets really hot for searing or other high heat cooking. I also like the fact that induction doesn’t produce any carcinogenic combustion byproducts. I’ve always had a high flow vent above any gas range I have owned. My wife used to have the bad habit of not turning on the fan when she uses the stovetop. Yeah, that doesn’t happen now.

    The bad news is… It’s a Wolf which is designed to last 20 years in a professional kitchen. While mine sees heavy use for a home kitchen, that’s peanuts in comparison. A Wolf will literally last a lifetime in a home. It would really pain me to junk this thing prematurely. If we stay where we are, the kitchen will need to be remodeled in the next 5 to 6 years. At that point my stove will be 15 years old, so we might just replace it.

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      Dang. I just looked up that Wolf and that looks amazing. I do like cooking with gas. I’ve never used induction and honestly, it didn’t even occur to me to get anything other than gas. It was just, “need a new range” and I immediately searched for gas since that’s what we already had.

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      Go with induction if you can. Gas isn’t great health wise.

      While it’s nice being able to cook during a power outage, a camp stove is usually sufficient.

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      I’m sorry yours is dying too.

      • it is not, it’s a 30" unit
      • went to my local big box hardware store website, searched for gas ranges and picked the cheapest gas one that was available quickly, in white, with the griddle.
      • that’s all the research.
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      It does feel poweful/liberating to be able to do things like installing the oven. We replaced the old because the oven igniter kept failing. I replaced it four times over the last 9ish months. And when it died again Monday my wife and i decided we were fed up with an over we coulsnt trust anymore.

      That being said, the install was really easy. Turned off the gas, disconnected the old oven, and pulled the male to male connector for the gas line off the old oven. Connected the gas line, plugged the oven in, turned on the gas, and slid it into place.

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      It is when you’ve done it a few times. Gas plumbing isn’t really that different from water plumbing, you just use different materials. It takes like 10 minutes to connect everything.

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    What did you do with the old one?

    This handful of screwdrivers? Don’t worry about that, I always carry these just in case.

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    Looks beautiful. Hope you have better luck than I did with that narrow, low-sided grill. I found that grease and food were constantly spilling over those edges. The groove seems to be there for cosmetic effect only. I stopped using the grill after a few months and now “grill” in a pan. I really miss my old grill.