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    Wait, has the US attacked someone in the last 5 weeks? From what I can tell, it’s just Trump doing Trump things, flapping his gums and trying to get NATO countries to honor their agreements. I’m not a fan of Trump, but I haven’t seen any evidence of the US actually attacking anyone, which is surprising because we usually have a war or two going on at all times.

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      He has threatened Canada that they’ll be the 51. US-State, he has threatened Denmark by saying he’ll “liberate” Greenland. A war of aggression usually doesn’t directly start by invading it, but with unrealisable claims and wrong accusations:

      • “Hand over Danzig” and “your troops are violating our border, we’re just protecting our border” before invading Poland in 1939
      • “Hand over these (non-existent) WMDs” and “Sadam was involved in 9/11, we’re just fighting terrorism” in 2003
      • “Crimea and Donbas shall be Russian” and “The government in Kyiv are Nazis, we’re just protecting the Russian minority” in 2014
      • “Canada shall be the 51. US state” and “Canadians are smuggling drugs into our country, we’re just protecting our border” in 2025
      • “We’re going to have Greenland” and “It’s for the protection of the free world, we’re just providing freedom to the Greenlanders” in 2025

      That’s how you talk to countries you’re planning to invade and not to countries you’re planning to protect from invasion.

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        The US isn’t going to invade Canada or Denmark, that’s just Trump talking all bravado and trying to get a deal with each. The US wants bases in the Arctic, and Canada and Greenland have land there. He’s teasing Trudeau and trying to broker a land deal with Denmark.

        The Iraq thing was completely stupid though. It was lumped in with the “War on Terror,” but it had nothing to do with terrorism. In fact, Saddam was doing a decent job keeping terrorism in check. I’m still confused about the actual goal there (pretty expensive just for oil…).

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          The original question was

          But are they worried the US won’t defend if a NATO country is attacked?

          and I’m pretty sure the current US won’t. In fact, here’s my prediction on what will happen:

          In the upcoming weeks Trump and Putin will split the Ukraine between the two of them. Encouraged by that success, Putin will try to invade Finland in order to reinstate the Russian Empire. Most of NATO will of cause stand with Finland, but Trump (confusing Finland with Denmark, as no true American can tell these nordic countries apart) tries to make a deal: “If Finland wants our support, they must hand over Greenland”. As Finland obviously can’t do that, Trump will say: “Then we must invade Greenland before the Russians get it”. But confusing Greenland with Canada (as no true American can tell these nordic countries apart) he will actually invade Nova Scotia. TBH, I think this orange idiot is so clueless, he might actually try to invade Alaska, believing it to be Canada.

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            Lol.

            If we’re going to invade any part of Canada, I vote for British Columbia. We’ll tell him it’s west Washington DC, but Britain claimed it, so we need to take it back. It’s gorgeous up there.

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              Please don’t tell him it was Britain, or he’ll be invading France next.

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                he can try… There is a reason this region was the birth of the french navy commando 😏 . The “fusilliers marin” who gave birth to the “commando marine” has a reputation on never loosing a place they protect even when they are completely surrounded (for example Dixmude during WWI or Bir Hakeim during WWII ^^)

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        That’s also how you talk to countries you’re trying to terrify into giving you greater concessions. The “art of the deal” is terrifying the other party with impossible demands and then negotiating down from there to something realistic, letting them think they avoided disaster. It creates an environment of fear and uncertainty, which forces his opponents to be cautious and fearful.

        I suppose there’s no way to know if he’s bluffing or if he’s being sincere, but that’s the point. He wants people to be afraid.