i agree. but i’d like to add that i don’t think skibidi toilet is just a meme (and i say that not to say memes are less valued). I was told it’s ‘cringe children meme’, went to actually watch it, and its a big series that is just amazing for what it is. its a passion filled action series with some really great direction, lighting, animation, etc at times. And Im so glad that something like this exists and is popular
Isnt it just source filmmaker? So it actually not created with a professional tool, it’s created with passion yeah, and it has its artistic values from some point of view, but the “cringe meme” is still the best way it can be described. Another well known ancient meme created with source filmmaker is “shrek is love, shrek is life”
“cringe meme” has as much artistic value as anything. there is no “some point of view” here. source filmaker being used doesnt change anything. shrek is love, shrek is life is different, but i wouldnt say its not artistic either, and not artistic limited to just ‘some point of view’
To put this as simply as possible: people are allowed to dislike things you find value in, for any or no reason. Whether you consider their reasoning valid or not doesn’t matter.
They are allowed to think that it doesn’t have value. It doesn’t have to effect the value you find in it.
I find artistic and comedic value in youtube poops. I’m not going to sit and argue that they are high art or something that needs or deserves to be respected by the wider world. I’m not going to be offended if others find them dumb, childish, or whatever else. I enjoy them and I respect the effort put into them. That’s enough.
And about Skibidi Toilet in particular, it bugs me that we have something like 16 years of machinima, content created with Garrys Mod, and content created in the source engine, and what seems to be making the most money and public awareness (outside of RoosterTeeth) is something that started as meme of a song with a singing head emerging from a toilet. There’s so much other content made using the same tools (and that was made with less tools) that deserved more than what they got when compared to this.
your post does not communicate this in the slightest. the title is hard to interpret but seems to be implying the issue with the image is that there are skibidi cards at all. There is no other descripter anywhere. ‘companies taking ideas from less legally powerful creators, and selling them for a quick profit’ is a great point, but there is nothing alluding to that here
I don’t like talking about it because what is there to do? Not buy something I wasn’t going to buy anyway? Throw money at a creator who stopped making stuff after his passion project got labeled “cringe” and was turned into a perpetual punching bag for the forseeable future?
BTW if I’m wrong and he’s still active, that’s pretty cool and I’d like to see what he’s up to. Also the One Punch Man tcg is great, which was actually the reason I posted this at all. I figured normalizing it would be helpful.
i agree. but i’d like to add that i don’t think skibidi toilet is just a meme (and i say that not to say memes are less valued). I was told it’s ‘cringe children meme’, went to actually watch it, and its a big series that is just amazing for what it is. its a passion filled action series with some really great direction, lighting, animation, etc at times. And Im so glad that something like this exists and is popular
Isnt it just source filmmaker? So it actually not created with a professional tool, it’s created with passion yeah, and it has its artistic values from some point of view, but the “cringe meme” is still the best way it can be described. Another well known ancient meme created with source filmmaker is “shrek is love, shrek is life”
“cringe meme” has as much artistic value as anything. there is no “some point of view” here. source filmaker being used doesnt change anything. shrek is love, shrek is life is different, but i wouldnt say its not artistic either, and not artistic limited to just ‘some point of view’
To put this as simply as possible: people are allowed to dislike things you find value in, for any or no reason. Whether you consider their reasoning valid or not doesn’t matter.
They are allowed to think that it doesn’t have value. It doesn’t have to effect the value you find in it.
I find artistic and comedic value in youtube poops. I’m not going to sit and argue that they are high art or something that needs or deserves to be respected by the wider world. I’m not going to be offended if others find them dumb, childish, or whatever else. I enjoy them and I respect the effort put into them. That’s enough.
And about Skibidi Toilet in particular, it bugs me that we have something like 16 years of machinima, content created with Garrys Mod, and content created in the source engine, and what seems to be making the most money and public awareness (outside of RoosterTeeth) is something that started as meme of a song with a singing head emerging from a toilet. There’s so much other content made using the same tools (and that was made with less tools) that deserved more than what they got when compared to this.
Honestly I really like the skibidi toilet series. I dont think the creator is seeing any profits from these cash-grabs, though
your post does not communicate this in the slightest. the title is hard to interpret but seems to be implying the issue with the image is that there are skibidi cards at all. There is no other descripter anywhere. ‘companies taking ideas from less legally powerful creators, and selling them for a quick profit’ is a great point, but there is nothing alluding to that here
I don’t like talking about it because what is there to do? Not buy something I wasn’t going to buy anyway? Throw money at a creator who stopped making stuff after his passion project got labeled “cringe” and was turned into a perpetual punching bag for the forseeable future?
BTW if I’m wrong and he’s still active, that’s pretty cool and I’d like to see what he’s up to. Also the One Punch Man tcg is great, which was actually the reason I posted this at all. I figured normalizing it would be helpful.