Not nearly enough, but certainly welcome.
PSA: Losses include dead AND wounded.
I find this difficult to believe. Edit: Wikipedia has a total (both sides) death toll of 160k-290k.
Casualties != Death
See first comment, 900K include wounded too.
This difficulty to believe it’s actually quite fundamental to what’s happening.
If you like, I invite you to imagine what would be the explanation if these numbers were true. (Even adjusted for being dead and wounded)
As always that this topic gets discussed: dead and wounded
IDK but seems probable if anybody on earth can take large amount of casualties, might be the Russians
And they all died because one psychopathic old fart simply just wanted to take over majority of or the entire country of another for personal gain.
Yeah, but let’s keep hating every russian, because they ‘freely choose to enlist’ and invade other countries. They love being shelled by Nato artillery 🥰
They didn’t freely choose to enlist but if you put a gun in my hand and tell me kill that innocent person I will rather shoot the person giving me the order
Riiiiiigght.
Be conscripted and die, or fight conscription and die.
Cowards to the last man.
Hey, that’s not fair! Most of them were not killed, but only mutilated too much to be ableish-bodied enough for the russian army!
(Serious note: this is the casuality number, that includes deaths, but also soldiers with wounds that put them out of service, like lost legs)
Does that not include Russians defecting also?
And then they send the mutilated back out into the trenches literally.
Armed only with crutches.
have they looked under the couch?
Are they stupid? Just find them!
There’s only a JD Vance there.
You have more in common with those soldiers than you do with the warpigs pulling the strings that led them to their deaths.
I’m pretty sure everybody on these websites knows they’re more similar to enlisted soldiers than to Vladimir Putin.
Not everybody, according to some of the comments in this very post.
So… You have a lot of common with people who are ready to go kill in exchange for money?
Oh wowzies.
Also what a damn bad dichotomy: either side with killers for money or those who pay them to kill.
For once, a normal human being will not side with either of.
edit: oh keep them downvotes coming, keep yourself counting all y’all who think killing for money is ok ¯_(ツ)_/¯.
You mean the 18-30 y/o men who are conscripted into compulsory military service for a year? Kinda sounds like a lot of them might not have much choice, barring gulag or suicide, in the matter.
tbf, most Russian conscripts are not involved in the war - men sign theoretically voluntary contracts in exchange for extra pay or reduced service time to be deployed outside of Russia.
That being said, there’s a great deal of coercion that’s involved, so while you can resist pressure to sign a contract, it’s not unreasonable to think that a significant minority felt they really didn’t have a choice.
Ah welcome to your private fantasy land. Enjoy it.
I just believe the righteous antipathy is better leveled at the Russian government, specifically Putin, than the anonymous cannon fodder.
I prefer to hate everyone willing to kill me, my friends, my family, take over my country equally. Especially so, if they do it for money, for ten years.
Hard to grasp such a complex concept, I understand.
I can understand why you feel the way you do and cannot dispute it is a hatred you’ve earned.
Just like I wouldn’t be able to blame any Canadian for hating every US soldier if the US were to invade Canada.
I personally feel bad for every person involved in something as horrible as fighting in a war. I wish their hearts, brains, and energies could instead be employed in something peaceful, helpful, and beneficial for the future.
I agree with both of you.
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The war is about 20 km away from my home town. I took part in two revolutions in order to prevent my home from becoming a totalitarian shithole.
You are wrong in almost every point.
But please, don’t let me stop you from living in your little Narnia, you stupid potato.
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“as a black man” vibes
Vibe away
Geez man, that really sucks. I’m sorry that’s happening to you and your people.
I thought this meme was dead. I miss meme center.
For a lot of people, yeah actually. It’s all relative to each country’s general economy and propaganda, but there are a lot of people around the world either already in the military willing to die or kill for their country because of patriotism or feeling like there’s no other career paths for them, or that would take up the call if conscripted by their country.
Then think about how hitmen, assassins, sicarios and those type of criminals are usually from poverty or lower class and just regular people that descended into a life of crime and kill for money. Yeah, I think it’s actually quite common for regular folk to be killing others for money unfortunately.
Anyone know the number of Americans killed in Vietnam without looking it up?
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~58,000
Plus about 300k “casualties”, which is more apples to apples with the 900k Russians.
Only about 150k Americans seriously wounded in Vietnam.
I would imagine Agent Orange and severe PTSD-induced homelessness or suicide should also contribute to that number.
That’s a fact. Though it’s hard to know what kind of statistic we’re seeing in Russia’s numbers here, by comparison
Yes, yes I do.
This is in no way true is it? Holy shit
Did you miss the article where local officials were giving out meat grinders to the parents of the KIA?
It’s . . . not . . . I don’t . . i mean. Yeah. Putin’s an absolute monster.
If you looked at the news article, the spokesman for the Kremlin mentioned that it was what the parents had “wanted and requested” which makes it look more like the parents taking a subtle jab at the leadership because they then had to publically hand them out.
I’ll be honest: I know next to nothing about the Vietnam War, living in Germany. We just read Slaughterhouse 5 in our English class and that’s it. Given its omnipresence in culture in general, I never would have thought that so “few” people died. Don’t get me wrong - it’s still a lot of people. But compared to the 900000 it’s just a drop in the bucket.
Fuck Putin and what he’s doing to my fellow countrymen/women/people
Most of those killed in Vietnam were Vietnamese civilians
How many of those are From NK or are those numbers not counted?
Not officially as it’s hard to determine the nationality. But it’s a drop in a bucket as NK has seen very limited action in the Kursk region.
Seeing as they are still on their murderous war of conquest, obviously not enough yet.
Good for Ukraine.
Fuckem.
a 10 billion 🙃 stupid propaganda why not?
Uhuh
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Awww 😥
Yes that number is too low agreed
Needs more zeroes.
