• LeninsOvaries@lemmy.cafe
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    22 hours ago

    Storm is right. Rogue’s powers aren’t a disease. Rogue can’t control her powers because of mental health issues. The solution is going to therapy, not taking away her powers.

    Imagine you have Tourette’s and can’t stop swearing. Is the cure to Tourette’s to cut your larynx out? No! But that’s effectively what Rogue is asking for in this scene.

    Storm is a little bit wrong. There is something wrong with Rogue. But it’s not that she’s a mutant. Storm’s right about that.

    I’m not an expert on the psychotherapy of mutants, but in most superhero media (eg Frozen), you have to accept your powers in order to control them. Storm is helping Rogue. Rogue needs to accept that her powers are part of her before she’ll be able to control them

    Also, everyone should go listen to The Bright Sessions. It’s a podcast about a psychologist for people with superpowers.

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      16 hours ago

      counterpoint: maybe she wouldn’t fucking have mental health issues if she didn’t posses the power to kill people by touch? just a thought

      you’re literally just repeating storm’s flawed argument, it’s real easy to say “oh but your power isn’t bad” when you’re not the one unable to touch people without killing them.

      Why should people be defined by things like that? shouldn’t they be free to “cure” it if they want?
      People do this same thing with all kinds of disabilities, especially stuff like autism/ADHD. “autism is your super power” very easy to say and it sounds nice, but you don’t get to be the arbiter of what’s part of people’s identity. If someone wants to “cure” a thing you don’t think is bad, tough shit! You don’t get a say in it.

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        I’m a transwoman, I’ve definitely heard people tell me I don’t need to transition I can just “Be gay and wear dresses all I want”

        I’m not a drag queen or a ladyboy, I’m a woman who used to be trapped in a man’s body. And yes I was a woman trapped in a man’s body

        “Oh no you were always a girl.”

        No, if I was always a girl then I’d have never had a problem.

        I like the mentality of well wishers but Toxic Positivity sucks.

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      16 hours ago

      Do you fucking hear yourself? What a goofy thing to say. Her touch kills people. It’s not a minor inconvenience. Mutants deserve medical autonomy to remove their powers if they wish. The cure was pretty magical too. In the movie it wasn’t akin to mutilation at all. Besides, if Cyclops wanted to have his eyes medically removed because he believed they’re just too dangerous, who are we to judge and refuse? It’s none of our business.

    • Robust Mirror@aussie.zone
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      17 hours ago

      If I’m born with a 6th finger there’s not necessarily anything wrong with that but at the same time if I want it amputated that should be my choice and my right.

      Accepting yourself is preferable but I think it’s just as valid to make choices about your own life if you can. Whether it’s a disease or not isn’t the issue.

      • LeninsOvaries@lemmy.cafe
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        15 hours ago

        Rogue isn’t making an informed decision. She’s just trauma reacting. If she were my patient, I wouldn’t sign off on a superpowerectomy until she’s made a proper effort to come to terms with her power and control it. Right now, she’s not fully of sound mind with regards to her power. She needs therapy before she can fully understand the choice she wants to make.