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      I’d totally be up for getting the whole cyborg treatment. Mind you, I’d be very critical of who puts what in me. I’d rather die than end up with a Black Mirror/Elon Musk/Mark Zuckerberg - advertisement firm inside my head.

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        I’ve met a couple of cyborgs (assuming we don’t count birth control/hormone regulation implants as technology, which we should do because they are). One was thrilled to be categorized that way (she has a pacemaker) the other was not (nerve inhibitor for pain, doesn’t work very well).

        So yeah I suppose it also depends on the goal and if the tech is friendly enough to achieve it. In the latter case, it doesn’t work because it’s very difficult to charge the battery. What a dumb reason to be crap implanted tech.

        Caution is very much warranted.

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      I used to think this and nowadays I’m paying attention to all the people making the machines.

      I’m all for getting borg’d out, but I don’t trust anyone to make the things I’d want to put in/on my body. You know it would all come with a data miner and a subscription fee.

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        I think we would have a wicked cool FLOSS option out there, somewhere. It would probably run off of a modified linux kernel. Don’t lose hope!

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    This morons always make stuff sound cooler than it is.

    I’m not really that into being a human, I kinda want to mesh with the machines and lose my human status. I really don’t dig capitalism doing it, like neuralink, but I do want to live forever as a machine chimera, living in a fully automated post scarcity space communism era.

    Sadly, transgender people existing doesn’t mean any of that. It’s just, you know, people existing.

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      Such a thing would be radically different in nature to you. You’re not living forever, you’re dying in order to allow something else to try to exist.

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    When you get “transgender” confused with “transhumanism” I guess. Though there isn’t zero overlap given that choosing one’s own form is an element of the latter.

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    Mesh with machines? Like what Nazi Poster boy Elon Musk’s Neuralink is trying to do? Is Charlie Kirk trying to dogwhistle that he’s trans?

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    How insecure do you have to be to believe that the existence of a type of person means that someone is going to force you to be that type of person.

    I get that feeling that these anti-LQBTQ+ people were all told forcefully what type of person they had to be when they were young.

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      Simply existing in the same space as them is terrifying. In that sense, they “force themselves” on him the same way a waitress at Chili’s forces tortilla chips on him.

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    So before I get to be a cyborg, I get to be trans? Sounds like a fucking wicked fun future.

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    I feel the urge, but I refuse to dishonor the Machine God by quoting the Mechanicus trailer here.

    He would make a great doorknob servitor.

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      From the moment I understood the weakness of my flesh…

      It’s such a good trailer

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    Too slow buddy, Donna Haraway’s “Cyborg Manifesto” beat you to it with better politics back in 1985.

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    I don’t think I would stop being a human if I was part robot. Are people with artificial hips or cochlear implants less human?

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      It might depend on how far you go with it, I guess. I don’t think we’re anywhere close to the archetypical cyberpunk dystopia that our media landscape is riddled with, but I do know that question of “what is the minimal requirement to be considered human” is a recurring concept in a lot of them, just because it’s the sort of question people today think about and don’t often have solid answers for.

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      Saint Michael Knowles recently discussed this on his show, and I really like (but disagree with) his answer. Paraphrasing:

      “The surgeries we do now are designed to correct a deformity, or defect, or restoring normal functionality that is missing or has been lost. It brings up what is broken & fixes it. These surgeries they’re trying to do now will allow humans to surpass human limitations, to become superior, to be more than human. And I don’t think that’s right or good.”

      Now coming from a deeply religious man, who likes to keep things natural & doesn’t like tampering with stuff. Praises the human form, really celebrates humanity…sure. He’s pretty consistent in character & I can see where he’s coming from, kind of.

      I say, why the hell not become more than human? Why not see what greatness we are capable of, when augmented with cyber implants, robotics, and AI? The people are willing to become more, let them become more. See what happens. I think the good will outweigh the bad, and if there’s a god that has a big problem with that, well let him come down & say so. Until such a time occurs…let it play out. I want to see what we can do. 🙂