• DiscoPosting [none/use name]@hexbear.net
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    measurehead — “GOOD ART CLARIFIES THE MIND AND HINTS AT FORGOTTEN VALUES. GOOD ART IS MAN’S DIVINE RIGHT AND TERRIBLE DUTY. THE WHINING, COPING, HAM SANDWICH RACE WISHES TO DESTROY THE CANON.”

  • aaaaaaadjsf [he/him, comrade/them]@hexbear.net
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    Long way to say that according to them, good art conforms to their biases, while bad art challenges them.

    I’d argue it’s the opposite. Good art should challenge the way you think, it should be capable of making you uncomfortable.

    • Ericthescruffy [he/him]@hexbear.net
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      If “Hints at Forgotten Values” and “Believes in, and tries to produce, beauty” weren’t enough then “Good art is man’s divine right and terrible duty” should remove all doubt. Its most definitely Fasch.

  • Utter_Karate [he/him, comrade/them]@hexbear.net
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    A seething, unstructured, arythmic thing that made you feel weird, sapped your energy, set off a downward spiral, confused your mind, spat on beauty, mocked the very concept of values and enfeebled life itself? That is not bad art. That is a Great Old One.

  • Zodiark [he/him]@hexbear.net
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    A lot of the bad column describes Nier Automata

    (But in a good way? Art is supposed to be many things; provocative and thought inducing as expression of the human condition is worth remembering.)

  • AssortedBiscuits [they/them]@hexbear.net
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    The only real difference between good art and bad art, if there is such a distinction, is whether the art is revolutionary or reactionary. Art that serves revolutionary politics is good while art that wallows in some reactionary nonsense is bad. It’s quite telling that values has to either be hinted at or mocked, leaving little room for openly politicized art. Could it be that this loser has reactionary ideas but understands that those reactionary ideas can’t be openly expressed so they must be hinted at?

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        One could argue that great art has to have some level of creativity. And thus by deffinition cant be reactionary.

        Even if a reactionary makes good art. The art has to have creativity in that sense the art is no longer reactionary.

  • Dolores [love/loves]@hexbear.net
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    every single descriptor for “good art” makes the most sense if you’re thinking it’s talking about porn lmao. i wonder if the author would agree?

  • axont [she/her, comrade/them]@hexbear.net
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    One time I recommended Uncut Gems to a coworker, and she gave it a shot. She said it was the most bizarre film she had ever seen and it was completely contrary to her values.

    I asked what she meant, she told me she thought Howard was going through a redemption arc. That he’d eventually see the error of his ways after winning the basketball gamble and go around to everyone he wronged to apologize, hand them money, and then convert to Christianity (yes she said this). She told me she felt weird for days after seeing it. I think she’s more used to watching creepy evangelical propaganda movies.

    So that’s what this guy reminds me of

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      god just like, the one thing that sticks out about this guy, about all the roman statue guys, is how obviously phony it is. like they’re preaching a doctrine of universal beauty and nietszchean inner strength but their actual life is desperately trying to craft the 280 character summary of c. s. lewis’ theology that will give them lots of followers and likes and eventually let them profitably drop-ship brain supplement powder from taiwan. i’m sorry if you are trying to make twitter your job, you are eating the bugs and living in the pods.

      • ilyenkov [she/her, they/them]@hexbear.net
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        It’s hilarious how un-Nietzscheian this chart is. Upholding the Canon and past values, and this whole retvrn to tradition thing, enfeble, not empower, life. But what’s a more classic combo than rightwingers and not getting Nietzsche?

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      I think this does a disservice to Miyazaki. He’s a snob and you can criticize the writing quite easily, but he at least appreciates the connection of animation to one’s experience of life rather than as an abstract exercise in pleasant stimulation.