• @[email protected]
    link
    fedilink
    2349 months ago

    Can’t stand it. Censoring yourself so some random ass company can make more ad revenue.

    Fuck that.

          • @[email protected]
            link
            fedilink
            -109 months ago

            They censor no-no words, you’ll occasionally see removed in a comment from a Lemmy.world account.

            They’re also emotional children that ban or defederate anyone who disagrees with them.

            Basically, they’re reddit v2.

            • gullible
              link
              fedilink
              249 months ago

              Hexbear was an absolute shitshow when they defederated from it so I don’t blame them. It’s now merely a shitmonologue. I’m pissed about dbzero, though. Is the word filter a real thing? Because I’ve been baiting people into acting out their malignant racist fantasies through promises of word filters and I’d hate to know that they exist in some capacity.

              • @[email protected]
                link
                fedilink
                219 months ago

                I think they just ublocked the dbzero. Or at least I saw a post about it recently saying they’ve unblocked the piracy communities. I assume that’s what you’re referring to.

                • gullible
                  link
                  fedilink
                  89 months ago

                  That’s genuinely good news. The unprompted piracy censorship was just weird.

              • JokeDeity
                link
                fedilink
                69 months ago

                Yeah I’m torn here, absolutely fuck hexbear and Lemmygrad, but also, fuck that heavy censorship garbage right back to Facebook where it belongs.

                • gullible
                  link
                  fedilink
                  49 months ago

                  Function first. Hexbear users on hexbear aren’t used to responding to people without reaction image barrages or endless effectively semantical arguments, and most people outside hexbear aren’t fans of that. Defederating the troll instance is just downright reasonable, not even getting into politics. They’ve chilled a bit since the initial excitement over federation. A. Bit.

                • gullible
                  link
                  fedilink
                  49 months ago

                  I’m going to need someone from .world to reply with a few examples of censored words to be sure. Anything from ****** to ****.

            • @[email protected]
              cake
              link
              fedilink
              English
              29 months ago

              This post is on lemmy.world so you can observe what is censored from my comment for yourself.

              Suicide Dead Kill Terrorism Shit Fuck Ass Piss Dick Pussy Cock Cunt Dildo Rape Motherfucker Porn Transgender Lesbian Gay Bisexual

              What do we have now? I left out racist slurs because I don’t feel the need to use those in any typical situation.

      • @starman2112
        link
        89 months ago

        Shit piss fuck cunt cocksucker motherfucker tits fart turd and twat

      • @PM_ME_FEET_PICS
        link
        59 months ago

        Not like Lemmy doesn’t have a controversial slur filter itself.

        • @[email protected]
          link
          fedilink
          49 months ago

          Which makes no sense. How are the words picked? Is there a sliding scale, or an objectionable meter somewhere? Who decided that b!tch should be censored, but not cunt or skank?

          • @PM_ME_FEET_PICS
            link
            19 months ago

            The creators of lemmy. As far as I am aware the list can’t be changed, just disabled.

        • @[email protected]
          link
          fedilink
          219 months ago

          What ideology are you talking about? Sure, you might just be a salty liberal or propertarian, but such vaguery could easily be a dogwhistle for something sinister.

          • Draconic NEO
            link
            fedilink
            2
            edit-2
            9 months ago

            They moved to Nostr since there they can’t be defederated and shut their Lemmy instance down, I bet they’ll later claim that us or the ADL shut them down because conspiracy theories are juicier.

    • newIdentity
      link
      139 months ago

      Fun fact: until not too long ago there was a language filter built right into Lemmy’s source code.

    • @[email protected]
      link
      fedilink
      English
      39 months ago

      I actually dig it a bit. They’re not really censoring themselves, they’re still talking about corn and seggs just in a way the app doesn’t yet recognize. Take that advertisers!

      • @[email protected]
        link
        fedilink
        149 months ago

        Yeah, they’re literally bypassing being censored. They’re continuing to talk about the shit that the company doesn’t want them to. It’s the opposite of what people are bitching about.

        • TheDankHold
          link
          fedilink
          139 months ago

          The term “ungood” also lets you talk about bad things but that doesn’t make it not newspeak. The corporate sanitizing and infantilizing of speech is not a good thing. It’s not the teen’s problem though, it’s the corporations and their desire for a sanitized public square they can plaster ads over.

          • @[email protected]
            link
            fedilink
            39 months ago

            Ungood was given by the state. This is stuff people are coming up with in defiance of the state/corporation/censorer. That distinction matters, I think.

  • @[email protected]
    link
    fedilink
    1559 months ago

    My wife was telling me about how annoying it is that she’ll try listening to new true crime podcasts and they’ll shit like “unalived” instead of “killed”. Comes across hella disrespectful to the victims.

    • FancyLad
      link
      fedilink
      1059 months ago

      To be fair, it’s pretty bleak to use someone’s grisly murder as a means of entertainment. Our society is weird

      • @[email protected]
        link
        fedilink
        English
        629 months ago

        “Hey there all you horror sweeties, I’ve got a sloppy poppy oopy goopy murder of a three year old little girl brought to you by Squarespace”

      • @[email protected]
        link
        fedilink
        English
        59 months ago

        Humans have had a taste for the macabre at least for as long as we have written history. Public executions used to be a past time activity (even Jesus’ crucifixion is told like it was a public show), the morgue of Paris was a tourist attraction, even the sanitised (and controversial) Body Worlds exhibition has no trouble finding an audience. Maybe what’s weird is our relationship with death and putrefaction. It happens to everyone yet it’s somehow in bad taste to talk about it.

    • JokeDeity
      link
      fedilink
      249 months ago

      I get so annoyed listening to true crime stuff on YouTube these days and having the audio cut out any time a person uses the word suicide or rape, but not the gorey details of murder; no that’s perfectly fine to hear every excruciating detail, but lord forbid your precious ears here the letters S-U-I-C-I-D-E in order.

      • @jscummy
        link
        99 months ago

        It’s dangerously close to 100 in my experience

      • @[email protected]
        link
        fedilink
        99 months ago

        It’s not (mostly, I can’t speak for the weirdos out there) murder porn, though? For a while, it was a movement of almost solidarity with other women, because these stories could easily happen to us. So it was almost like listening to survival tips, as well as paying respects to those lost by trying to learn from their experiences. It probably wasn’t a coincedence that the ‘true crime wave’ happened around the time of Me Too.

        And to soothe your mind, true crime as a ‘fad’ is dying quite a bit. People realized that, hey having a frivolous show where you clown and make cocktails or some shit while talking about real victims just isn’t okay.

        Source: am a woman who was (and is) interested in true crime, and have spoken to many other women from different circles—and even states/cities—who were also interested in the topic.

        • @[email protected]
          link
          fedilink
          English
          7
          edit-2
          9 months ago

          It’s not exclusive to woman either – guys (especially young guys) watch police bodycams of shootings, combat footage, and gore-porn TV shows or movies. There were entire subreddits dedicated to actual videos/pictures of people dying – and I’ll give you one guess as to what the demographics of their user bases were.

          It’s almost as if a lot of people are morbidly curious about death and violence.

        • @PM_ME_FEET_PICS
          link
          19 months ago

          True crime has been popular since the 50s and has no signs of winding down.

          • @[email protected]
            link
            fedilink
            0
            edit-2
            9 months ago

            That’s not what I said, is it? I was talking specifically about the more recent spike in popularity.

            Edit: Not sure why I’m being down voted for pointing out what I said. I very specifically was talking about the spike in popularity around 2016. I’m not talking about the topic being popular before that, because there is a specific difference in the two time frames, where interest in the topic reached a fever pitch. And yes, it is ‘slowing down’ compared to said fever pitch ~2016. But ‘slowing down’ mostly means returning to baseline.

  • @alt
    link
    1189 months ago

    Everyone else is circle jerking about the censorship, meanwhile, I’m wondering how murder, rape, suicide, sex, and lesbians all came up in a bumble chat.

  • @[email protected]
    link
    fedilink
    979 months ago

    I’ll never forget about 25 years ago cruising around some random chat rooms on mIRC and somebody asked me how the weather was and I said it was a bit chilly and I got instabanned with the message potty mouth… took me a good 5 minutes to workout wtf happened (bit ch)illy

  • @[email protected]
    link
    fedilink
    96
    edit-2
    9 months ago

    Honestly, a tiktokker and a 4channer sound like the perfect couple, at least from the POV as an outside observar. grabs popcorn

  • ɐɥO
    link
    fedilink
    699 months ago

    I fucking hate people censoring themselfs. Like what the fuck does “I ****** ***** ****** *****” mean?

    • Chariotwheel
      link
      fedilink
      68
      edit-2
      9 months ago

      Saw this often back then on Reddit. People wanting to curse, but the writing f*ck. If you want to curse, curse. If you think it would be too rude to spell out, just fucking don’t.

      • ɐɥO
        link
        fedilink
        199 months ago

        Same vibes as Hentai with blurred titties.

        • @whyNotSquirrel
          link
          English
          29 months ago

          hentai are Animation right? so they have a blurry texture for tits or do they blur it after?

          • @[email protected]
            link
            fedilink
            89 months ago

            I think they blur ir after. Just Japanese law prevents the showing of genitalia. Not other parts of the body. So only the vagina and penis are normally censored. However is some cases the asshole is censored too but it’s not as often I don’t think.

            • @[email protected]
              link
              fedilink
              19 months ago

              Asshole has to be censored when it’s being penetrated afaik, though sometimes they just censor it along with the rest for whatever reason, probably less effort to draw.

          • JokeDeity
            link
            fedilink
            49 months ago

            After, which is really dumb because a lot of artists are spending time making the art only to have to put a black bar over their work for no real logical reason.

      • @[email protected]
        link
        fedilink
        99 months ago

        I think that’s mostly when people use speech to text. I know gboard automatically censors words like that.

      • @[email protected]
        link
        fedilink
        39 months ago

        For sure. The only time it’s appropriate is when quoting but you can’t use the exact text for whatever reason.

  • raubarno
    link
    fedilink
    569 months ago

    Cannot resist bashposting:

    ~ $ bian='nd me money pls'
    ~ $ echo le$bian
    lend me money pls
    
  • FoundTheVegan
    link
    fedilink
    559 months ago

    I had this happen in real life.

    A friend of a friend died of cancer complications. I posted a rest in peace type message on Facebook without details.

    The next time I saw my mother she asked “I saw your post. Did your friend unalive herself…?”. It felt SO insulting and demeaning for her to ask that AND to ask like that.

    • @PM_ME_FEET_PICS
      link
      279 months ago

      CPC regularly disappear gay and lesbian people. Back in 1996 they just publicly executed them.

      • @[email protected]
        link
        fedilink
        49 months ago

        Thats why I find it insane when lgbtq+ people defend China. Like bruh, you would go to the work camps if you lived there

        • @PM_ME_FEET_PICS
          link
          19 months ago

          Yup.

          People say that they stopped but they still do It today. The law against hooliganism was simply changed to another.

          Back in 2014 and 2015 several women in the Chinese MeToo movement were disappeared(social media removed and persons detained and sent to work camps or assumed killed). Several of which have still not been returned to thier loved ones.

          Homosexuality is legal but highly censored. Public displays can result in arrest. Social media of homosexual people and homosexual topics are often removed.

          Homosexuals are not allowed to marry. 80% of Bisexual and Homosexual men enter “sham marriages” either due to toxic homophobia and so they can be granted equal rights. Data is unknown on homosexual and bisexual women, but it likely similar.

          Trans peoples rights are equally stifled. People are free to identify and SRS is legal but someone who is Transgender is forced to live as their birth gender until SRS has been completed. However, people who have undergone SRS still have to conform to gender segregated rules as their birth gender, such as washrooms and schooling. Like with feminism and homosexuality, public displays can result in arrest and their social media gets censored.

  • SillyScythe
    link
    fedilink
    49
    edit-2
    9 months ago

    The terms originated from online censorship but to me using these terms IRL is very similar to people who use internet slang out loud. Might not be censoring herself but just so used to using those terms. It’s annoying either way though.

      • @[email protected]
        link
        fedilink
        14
        edit-2
        9 months ago

        Be careful before it spreads to the *

        • ROFL:ROFL:ROFL:ROFL
        •      _^___
          
        • L __/ [] \
        • LOL===__ \
        • L ________]
        •      I   I
          
        •     --------/
          

        Edit: I have no idea how to format here. You have to live now with this abomination

        • @[email protected]
          link
          fedilink
          139 months ago

          Either 3 backticks before and after code block, or 4 spaces at the start of each line

           ROFL:ROFL:ROFL:ROFL
                   _^___
           L    __/   [] \
          LOL===__        \
           L      \________]
                   I   I
                  --------/
          

          roflcopter

          • @[email protected]
            link
            fedilink
            English
            3
            edit-2
            9 months ago

            You know, I never questioned where the term roflcopter came from, but I just looked it up and it comes from the WarCraft III forums in 2003. It actually refers to the gyrocopter in the game rather than a helicopter. This has been another…

        • @[email protected]
          link
          fedilink
          29 months ago

          SOI SOI SOI SOI SOI SOI SOI SOI SOI SOI SOI SOI SOI SOI SOI SOI SOI SOI SOI SOI SOI SOI SOI SOI SOI SOI SOI SOI SOI SOI SOI SOI SOI SOI SOI SOI SOI SOI SOI SOI SOI SOI SOI SOI SOI SOI SOI SOI SOI SOI SOI SOI SOI SOI

      • SillyScythe
        link
        fedilink
        49 months ago

        I’ve said stuff like IRL before I’m sure. I didn’t mean to sound judgemental but doing it constantly all the time would irritate me TBH IMO FFS.

  • @[email protected]
    link
    fedilink
    English
    409 months ago

    Languages evolving, to match the censorship, which means censorship will evolve as well. People want to express themselves