• mibo80@lemm.ee
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    1 year ago

    Until they realize how shitty those states are and want to but, can’t move back.

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      I think Arizona isn’t the worst in terms of weather, but a lot of people are getting fucked by the cost of living in Cali. Arizona makes sense for the sound of mind.

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        Cost of living is ridiculous in CA, but in FL it’s almost impossible to get home insurance for hurricane-related damage because so many companies are going under. They can’t afford it. So it’s cheap until your home is under water.

        And I get that natural disasters happen everywhere, even more-so now, but it’s not uncommon for FL to get hit with 2-3 major storms a year.

        I’ve lived in Texas for awhile (not my first choice but here we are), and 4 of my most recent neighbors in my neighborhood are from CA. And ALL super conservative, one has the bumper stickers and has been flying the US flag on his house upside down. I’m not joking….it’s not the liberals who are moving here, lol cries I wish!

        Native Texans voted for native Texan Beto O’Rourke, transplants went for Ted Cruz, exit poll shows

        I hope FL gets a better deal with its CA transplants, and I hope the folks who are leaving due to financial hardships do okay.

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          FL is fucked. We had something like 300k+ MAGA assholes move here just during one year of the pandemic.

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          I’d never move to FL purely on the basis of wtf is even going on there, also the weather. My parents moved to TX because, idk maga I guess, and then immediately called and complained their neighbor was a surly gun-toting type. Like? Yeah no shit. Also the weather in Texas is absolutely wild?!

          So many other states to choose from lol.

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          For CA that does seem to be the case. The people I know that have decided to head to Texas (from here in Washington) are still pretty liberal and ended up moving to Austin. We’ve also gotten a ton of people from all areas of Texas who are sick of how far right the government is there and decide to move to one of the more expensive regions in the country to get away from it.

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        I mean if your options are only TX, FL, and AZ, I think AZ is probably the better bet for destinations at this point. Southern AZ is short on water but I think northern AZ is in better shape. Wouldn’t want to live under DeSantis and TX is pretty nutty in general.

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          Also you could always live in one of the cities along the Colorado such as Havasu.

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            Hahaha no you definitely don’t want to live there. Born and raised in AZ. You want to stay near the main population centers unless you’re deeply DEEPLY conservative. Visiting is great but I would not want to live there. Could be worse in somewhere like Kingman, but still.

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              I get what youre saying, but those regions will never improve without new blood. I ya can deal with the shit and aint in a vulnerable group id encourage it to a degree. Not every redneck is a frothing bigot and if even half of them are like my area most folks just kinda want to be left alone and will probably lynch the christo-fascists if they push their luck. Mind ya im in a particularly redneck part of southern California so somewhat different but the rule of thumb probably still stands.

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        Um, did you see the string of 110 F at midnight in a row? You sure you want to pay to try and cool that enough to survive?

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              Uh, what? Where did I say money isn’t a deciding factor? I agreed that moving is expensive!

              The original comment didn’t say it was difficult, they said you literally “can’t move back”, which is obviously not true. Hence my question…

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    Companies move to these states to take advantage of lax taxes, they still need skilled labor though so they pay someone from California to relocate.

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    I want to say “fine, California is better off without them”, but I’m sure there are some people who are forced to move for economic reasons. But then again, why are they choosing those shitholes?

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        There is nothing cheap about Texas.

        Tax burden is roughly equivalent to California, it’s just hidden in ways these idiots don’t realize before they move because all they see is “NO INCOME TAX.” They don’t realize those relatively cheap homes come with preposterously high property taxes that would get you woodchippered if you tried to raise them to this level in California (4-5x higher). Well okay but your home was still cheaper and it’s bigger except, by the way, you’re now making significantly less money and you knew that going in. Right? You DID account for that, didn’t you? Food isn’t really less expensive. Toll roads are fucking everywhere. Gas may be less expensive but everything is farther away and if you want to save money by taking public transport you’re fucked unless you live in Dallas because it’s the only city in this state that has something resembling a fully functional system (and it’s still utter shit compared to LA, Seattle, Boston, DC, Chicago, and even fucking Atlanta). Also your house has foundation problems because the soil in Texas is made mostly of moisture with some dirt holding hands in between.

        On top of that you’re constantly dodging tornadoes, you’re surrounded by people far more racist than your “my Mexican neighbors play loud music sometimes and I don’t like it” could ever comprehend, a trip to any large public area will guarantee you’re in the midst of random assholes with guns on their hips, the government is trying to defund public education (and you can be fucking CERTAIN your property taxes won’t fucking go down), the government is such shit that it rejected improvements to Medicaid it wouldn’t even have to fucking pay for, abortion is basically illegal, and our cops will in fact just let you and your children be murdered rather than do their jobs. So at least you’ll feel right at home on that point.

        Texas is shit. It’s expensive shit. If it’s actually cheaper for you then chances are good your children were already in private schools, you utilized no public services, and you were already raking in $500k or more a year. THEN you might find things easier because this state was designed to kowtow to your 1% ass.

        Otherwise, move literally anywhere else. Texas is the perfect storm of dick in the ass and no reacharound.

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          As someone stuck in Oklahoma I concur but who fuck to can afford to live in California? Look at the fucking homeless population and you wonder why we aren’t banging at the door.

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    Pick your poison.

    • Liberal states like California, with hella regulations, taxes, etc. More expensive.

    • Conservative states like Mississippi, with none of the above. Cheap cost of living.

    I’m starting to think America is just too big to play together nicely. And the way our politics are playing out, a sane middle ground seems unlikely.

    Maybe we’ll smear ourselves all over the land, which would force some common ground, more homogenous, dunno. I hope to have 30 more years on this planet, probably less. You kids, and mine, are straight fucked.

    Do your best. I’m trying too, and I’m rooting for you.

    “Hello babies. Welcome to Earth. It’s hot in the summer and cold in the winter. It’s round and wet and crowded. On the outside, babies, you’ve got a hundred years here. There’s only one rule that I know of, babies - "God damn it, you’ve got to be kind.”

    ― Kurt Vonnegut

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        Cost of living is the subject here. Think California is a paradise? Never been there, but it sounds damned fine. But don’t come back bitching about the cost of living.

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      Conservative states like Mississippi, with none of the above. Cheap cost of living.

      But also things like no women’s body right, no lgbtq rights, rampant religion shoved down your throat, rampant bigotry, the war on trans leaning kids, etc…

      What a wonderfully disingenuous post, thank you.