I’m tired about reading about reddit here.

We left. Let’s move on.

  • SomeoneElse@lemmy.world
    1345·
    1 year ago

    I don’t mean to be rude OP, but your entire contribution to lemmy has been 5 comments and this single post about Reddit. In order to gain traction as a viable alternative to Reddit we need OC and active participation in the comment section. Be the change you want to see and lead by example - start posting interesting non-Reddit related stuff yourself. The more people that do, the better lemmy will be.

    • BraBraBra@lemmy.world
      424·
      1 year ago

      I think we need to start poaching video content from reddit and posting it here. Stuff like HoldMyBeer, StartledCats, etc. There’s so much content for the taking, I don’t think we should get stuck on OC. In this stage we just need content. I’m seriously considering starting a cat sub or holdmybeer sub, and stealing all the content from reddit until people starting posting their own contributions.

      • henfredemars@infosec.pub
        26·
        1 year ago

        One should stress that it should be good content though. One of our strengths at this time is the reduced number of bots and more active contributors.

        There is plenty of content out there however, and I started sharing some of my favorite links with the smaller communities. Doing my part.

      • SomeoneElse@lemmy.world
        5·
        1 year ago

        I agree. I should have said “make new posts” rather than OC. When I first joined I used my last days of Apollo access to copy over a few of my favourite BORU posts as the community was otherwise empty. I also started c/[email protected] and reposted some of the old classics to get the community started. I don’t think lemmy should just be Reddit on another site, but it’s a good place to start while we build the site up.

        • BraBraBra@lemmy.world
          2·
          1 year ago

          It’s becoming clear to me that getting a picture or video community off the ground that is not just memes might be difficult, and will take a pretty large userbase to sustain. But I think with something like Stealth app, as long as it continues to allow downloading from reddit, it should be easy for moderators to source video content themselves for the time being.

          • Wrench Wizard@lemmy.world
            2·
            1 year ago

            I’ve got a collection of porn from there if anyone needs it

            Boost had a download function… before those bastards killed it I had a pretty decent catalog of titties.

      • Wrench Wizard@lemmy.world
        2·
        1 year ago

        I’m with you, honestly how do you think that content got to reddit in the first place? Sure there’s some original content there but 99% of the site is just reposts people got from other sites - and porn. Bring some porn back with you if you have space

      • quickpen
        1·
        1 year ago

        Let me know when you do so I can subscribe to your stream of silliness and entertainment :)

    • samus12345@lemmy.world
      92·
      1 year ago

      Yeah, the bitching about people bitching about Reddit is far more annoying than just the bitching about Reddit.

      • venusenvy47@lemmy.world
        4·
        1 year ago

        It reminds me of the occasional times where a corporate email would be sent out improperly to “all” in our company. A few people would reply all: “take me off this list”. Then someone would reply all to those guys: “don’t reply all”. Then other people would reply all:“you are spamming the whole company!”, etc.

        It would take an hour or so to die off, but It was kind of amusing to see people react to the chaos. I assume the bitching about Reddit will die off naturally.

        • Wrench Wizard@lemmy.world
          11·
          1 year ago

          Yeah, ironically this whole post reminds me of that place

          Maybe they’re a plant sent from redshit to lower participation by reducing our current favorite topic which is: fuck redshit

    • atempuser23@lemmy.worldEnglish
      11·
      1 year ago

      Making a post that blows up like this one was a thing on reedit. You got a score and that encouraged gaming/trolling. It’ll take a bit to realize that karma isn’t a thing.

      • SomeoneElse@lemmy.world
        2·
        1 year ago

        I tried to give OP the benefit of the doubt by providing practical ways he could make a positive impact if he was being genuine, but I think I was being naïve. He’d been on lemmy for the best part of a week before he posted this. No way in hell he hadn’t come across the many posts complaining about the same thing. Plus his reply to me was very Reddit-like. Passive aggressive at best, antagonistic at worst. I’d become used to people being a little nicer and more genuine in the few weeks I’ve been here!

        There something I don’t really understand about karma vs plain upvotes on lemmy. I know you needed a certain amount of karma to post in some subs, but it was never very much from what I recall. After you’d reached 2k at most, it didn’t have any value beyond social validation. Karma farmers didn’t do it for any real benefit, it just made them feel good. Won’t lemmy upvotes just be the same? You still get an upvote tally on your profile, you still get the dopamine boost from a thousand of people agreeing with you. Why do we assume (and hope) that karma/point farming won’t continue on this platform?

        • atempuser23@lemmy.worldEnglish
          21·
          1 year ago

          The Karma was your reddit score a way to rank your seniority and value. It made it a bit easier to see where someone stood in a specific community.A post from a throwaway account was more suspect than one with lots of karma.

          Point farming will be a thing, people crave attention and you can get that validation . Without that overall score I think it will be less pronounced on lemmy. I have been shocked with the reasonableness of posters here on lemmy.

          • SomeoneElse@lemmy.world
            1·
            1 year ago

            I just went to check what my karma was. On my first main account I had 30k karma after 10 years. The account I was using when I left was 8 years old and only had 3k karma. I definitely didn’t have any seniority or value! 😂

    • rm_dash_r_star@lemm.ee
      0·
      1 year ago

      The OP is complaining about all the Reddit bitching on his front page. There is some control over the looks of one’s front page in profile settings. If set to “All”, then yeah there’s going to be a lot of stuff outside of interest on the front page. My front page is set to “Subscribed” so I have to intentionally look for that stuff if I want to see it.

      The way to use Lemmy is to subscribe to communities with content of interest and use the the subscribed view. Maybe this is more a case of someone new to Lemmy not understanding the best way to use Lemmy.

      • Damaskox@lemmy.world
        1·
        1 year ago

        Can I see most posts being from the communities I have subscribed at while still introducing stuff from communities I haven’t signed up for?

        Seeing new stuff usually is good in life =)

    • JonsJava@lemmy.fmhy.mlOP
      12·
      1 year ago

      I joined 4 days ago. I have contributed to HFY mostly, until this.

      I haven’t done much, because I wanted to get a feel for the community.

      Is it ok that I contribute now?

      • SomeoneElse@lemmy.world
        2·
        1 year ago

        No need to get arsey, I wasn’t being rude to you. I simply pointed out, politely, that we can each make lemmy better by posting content we find interesting. Posting to complain about people posting to complain about Reddit, not only doesn’t help matters, it actively makes it worse. And clearly I’m not alone in this sentiment. I look forward to seeing your contributions now you have a feel for the place and have got your little rant off your chest 💚

    • varzaman@lemm.ee
      12·
      1 year ago

      You trying to guilt people into generating content? Lol.

      This isn’t a job. This is for leisure. No one should force it.

  • DemigoD@lemmy.world
    743·
    1 year ago

    ya ok but then again you did make this thread, currently #1 on my lemmy world feed, about bitching about reddit lol

  • Some_Emo_Chick@lemmy.world
    541·
    1 year ago

    Except the person you are on the date with also broke up with Reddit, and that is why you are on a date in the first place.

  • acunasdaddy@lemmy.world
    444·
    1 year ago

    Hard disagree. The Reddit situation is a huge news story even for people who aren’t on Reddit.

    Also you wouldn’t bring up an ex on a first date because you’re trying to impress the new person. However you would definitely talk about her to friends and family if it was an upsetting situation for you. Reddit was a big part of my life and it fucking sucks what happened To it

    • seejur@lemmy.world
      111·
      1 year ago

      I think there is a thin line there, which has been crossed.

      Talking about Reddit drama is fine. But when 90% of the posts here are all about Reddit (or Meta/Twitter vs Mastodon) it seems to me that people are just salty.

      I came here because I gave up on Reddit, and I am looking for a reddit substitute. What I wish is to find here the content I would normally find there, so that I am not forced to move back to that wonderful website, sadly managed by shitlords (as the other 100% of profit driven websites. A lesson hard learned).

      But if my feed is spammed by 90% stuff about Reddit and nothing else, that is not the way to growth or make people stick around.

      • acunasdaddy@lemmy.world
        7·
        1 year ago

        Totally. But the reddit discussions will naturally die down and/or be contained in the “reddit sucks” specific subreddits (I think they are called “Communities” on most instances? Sorry - still learning). But either way it’s a hot topic right now and, as you said, people are angry, hurt, and want a place to vent. I like that we have that space and can discuss together.

    • MySkinIsFallingOff@lemmy.world
      1·
      1 year ago

      Yeah, it’s so far from bringing up an ex on a new date. I assume most people here are ‘an ex’ of reddit. It’s more like a group of friends in a new bar talking shit about a bar they used to go to. Which is completely unproblematic and natural. The new bar doesn’t give a shit, and the friend group gets to vent.

    • 15liam20@lemmy.world
      0·
      1 year ago

      You’re right, anyone trying to get to first base with the Fediverse needs to have a serious word with themselves.

  • wilberfan@lemmy.worldEnglish
    39·
    1 year ago

    We talk about what’s important to us in the moment… It’s part of how we mourn the loss we’ve just experienced.

  • gravitas_deficiency
    391·
    1 year ago

    Real talk: it’s because we’re trying to identify and preemptively avoid the pitfalls of Reddit.

    • HostilePasta@lemmy.fmhy.ml
      5·
      1 year ago

      I think there is merit to this point. Understanding where reddit went wrong, and what we can do to prevent the same here, is a useful discussion.

      • gravitas_deficiency
        2·
        1 year ago

        To expand on that theme:

        I’m a software engineer myself, and have been for over a decade and a half. At this point, whenever anything, anywhere appears to be in the beginning stages of collapsing and failing, I find myself sliding into the postmortem/RCA mindset, and trying to consider and nail down particular choices, changes, processes, and/or structural attributes that may have contributed to said collapse beginning, and theoretically, continuing. Yes, I know in vivo RCA-as-the-failure-is-actively-occurring isn’t really how failure analysis processes are supposed to be done… but nonetheless, it’s led me to some interesting and insightful observations and conclusions over the years.

        Or, if I try to distill that down to the essence of finding useful answers in the observation of platform collapses: it’s about continuing to drill down past what seems like a surface-level reasonable answer. There’s almost ALWAYS more going on.

        Twitter, for instance, is a fascinating case-study on this, and the author of this blogpost appears to have similar thoughts.

        Reddit is also a fascinating case study. A couple of hilights:

        • it’s historically been much closer to a text-based tiktok with a highly interactive userbase - I.e. it’s somewhat less of a social graph, and instead much closer to an interest graph.
        • spez et al decided to capriciously change how the graph works (how users discover and interact with content; how communities are managed and moderated).
        • Then they decided to try to force a return to normalcy under drastically changed conditions, in the interest of driving profitability/ad revenue/etc for their VCs.

        Obviously there’s a LOT more nuance and many more points to explore there. I’d be very interested to learn more about the internal analysis and due diligence that Reddit leadership did before this whole shitshow really kicked off. I’d be interested to know how much and to what degree of nuance decision makers at Reddit are familiar with social and group theory, and whether (and how) that may or may not have affected this whole thing. Id be interested to know the degree of internal pushback against (what I think everyone agrees are) capricious, ill-advised structural changes, if any. I’d be interested to know more about the financial position of Reddit, Reddit’s investors, the VC subset targeting social network companies, and the VC industry in general. And the list goes on.

        Again, there’s a lot to investigate here. There’s a lot of lessons to learn, and a lot of anti-patterns that can be discerned and avoided in the future. I hope that will eventually lead to a more sustainable, healthy, more community-centric and long-lived social platform - maybe it’s lemmy, maybe it’s something else that comes later; for now though, imo, it’s lemmy.

  • Altima NEO@lemmy.zip
    31·
    1 year ago

    It’s only been 8 days dude. Gotta give people time to grieve and accept it so they can move on.

    • Lightor@lemmy.world
      1·
      1 year ago

      For real. It’s like getting a new job and say “wow I love how great this is, my old job sucked.” Then kinda laughing at how bad it was then and how good it is now.

      Asking people to immediately forget about a platform they (at least in my case) have spent over a decade on in a matter of days is naive. People are going to commiserate about it, we’re human.

  • druphis@lemmy.zip
    281·
    1 year ago

    Here is a hot take: think of it like leaving a house you have been renting for 10 years. Our relationship wasn’t with the landlord as much as it was the neighbors and community.

    Now, our landlord turned to a money-grubbing asshat spaz spez. You better believe we are telling everyone in our community, old and new, not to rent from him. Additionally, we are going to be venting the hurt of being evicted. We have all been forced to find a new neighborhood and learn everything new that comes with it. Our habits have been reset and it sucks.

  • MythicalDraught@lemmy.world
    24·
    1 year ago

    No. Joining Lemmy and bitching about Reddit is more like you and one or two other roommates moving out of a large, historically awesome collective steadily being ruined by an increasingly dictatorial house-owner (who used to live there too) and bitching about it in your brand new but decidedly smaller one, hopefully looking towards the future between tirades and building to regain some of that lost awesomeness

    • SixTrickyBiscuits@lemmy.world
      13·
      1 year ago

      Plus, bitching about common experiences is awesome. I have two past co-workers that I stay in contact with and most of what we talk about is how much we hated the job.

    • DrMango@lemmy.world
      82·
      1 year ago

      Here we are recreating the exact same communities with the exact same content and the exact same jokes.

      Maybe if we want to stop focusing on reddit we need to stop trying so hard to be reddit.

        • Earl Turlet@lemmy.zip
          9·
          1 year ago

          Usernames checks out. This. Not a lawyer, but this is gold right here. Because science. F in the chat, my dude. That escalated quickly. ELI5? Happy cake day! 5/7 with rice. Take my upvote and go. We did it, Reddit! You. I like you. Good bot. I’m not crying, you’re crying. Instructions unclear, got stuck in ceiling fan. Plot twist: OP is the real MVP. I’m here all day folks. Ah, the ol’ Reddit switch-a-roo. Absolutely not me_irl. Risky click of the day. Came here to say this. OP’s mom has entered the chat. /s, but honestly, can confirm, am banana. Edit: thanks for the gold, kind stranger!

              • Undearius@lemmy.caEnglish
                1·
                1 year ago

                Oh, it’s a fantastic skit and I still find it hilarious.

                It’s just annoying when the punchline was posted to literally anything that’s broken.

          • feck_it
            1·
            1 year ago

            Also * shudder * as if people were roleplaying with their 6 foot tall cat gfs with those asterisks and shit, i was a lurker for obvious reasons but even i wanted to say “just write some sentences dude”