we fuckin

We are fucking now.

We boyfriend and girlfriend!

One should stress that it should be good content though. One of our strengths at this time is the reduced number of bots and more active contributors.

There is plenty of content out there however, and I started sharing some of my favorite links with the smaller communities. Doing my part.

I agree. I should have said “make new posts” rather than OC. When I first joined I used my last days of Apollo access to copy over a few of my favourite BORU posts as the community was otherwise empty. I also started c/[email protected] and reposted some of the old classics to get the community started. I don’t think lemmy should just be Reddit on another site, but it’s a good place to start while we build the site up.

I’m with you, honestly how do you think that content got to reddit in the first place? Sure there’s some original content there but 99% of the site is just reposts people got from other sites - and porn. Bring some porn back with you if you have space

Strongly agree.

Let me know when you do so I can subscribe to your stream of silliness and entertainment :)

It reminds me of the occasional times where a corporate email would be sent out improperly to “all” in our company. A few people would reply all: “take me off this list”. Then someone would reply all to those guys: “don’t reply all”. Then other people would reply all:“you are spamming the whole company!”, etc.

It would take an hour or so to die off, but It was kind of amusing to see people react to the chaos. I assume the bitching about Reddit will die off naturally.

Agreed, it’s also just a very Reddit poster thing to do ironically.

I tried to give OP the benefit of the doubt by providing practical ways he could make a positive impact if he was being genuine, but I think I was being naïve. He’d been on lemmy for the best part of a week before he posted this. No way in hell he hadn’t come across the many posts complaining about the same thing. Plus his reply to me was very Reddit-like. Passive aggressive at best, antagonistic at worst. I’d become used to people being a little nicer and more genuine in the few weeks I’ve been here!

There something I don’t really understand about karma vs plain upvotes on lemmy. I know you needed a certain amount of karma to post in some subs, but it was never very much from what I recall. After you’d reached 2k at most, it didn’t have any value beyond social validation. Karma farmers didn’t do it for any real benefit, it just made them feel good. Won’t lemmy upvotes just be the same? You still get an upvote tally on your profile, you still get the dopamine boost from a thousand of people agreeing with you. Why do we assume (and hope) that karma/point farming won’t continue on this platform?

Can I see most posts being from the communities I have subscribed at while still introducing stuff from communities I haven’t signed up for?

Seeing new stuff usually is good in life =)

No need to get arsey, I wasn’t being rude to you. I simply pointed out, politely, that we can each make lemmy better by posting content we find interesting. Posting to complain about people posting to complain about Reddit, not only doesn’t help matters, it actively makes it worse. And clearly I’m not alone in this sentiment. I look forward to seeing your contributions now you have a feel for the place and have got your little rant off your chest 💚

The irony seems lost on you. It’s like calling up your ex to tell her you’re not thinking about her.

This is the most upvoted post I’ve seen yet :⁠^⁠)

I’m just glad to see thousand upvotes

Totally. But the reddit discussions will naturally die down and/or be contained in the “reddit sucks” specific subreddits (I think they are called “Communities” on most instances? Sorry - still learning). But either way it’s a hot topic right now and, as you said, people are angry, hurt, and want a place to vent. I like that we have that space and can discuss together.

The Connect app allows you to hide posts based on keywords. Maybe add “reddit” to that?

Why stop at first??

To expand on that theme:

I’m a software engineer myself, and have been for over a decade and a half. At this point, whenever anything, anywhere appears to be in the beginning stages of collapsing and failing, I find myself sliding into the postmortem/RCA mindset, and trying to consider and nail down particular choices, changes, processes, and/or structural attributes that may have contributed to said collapse beginning, and theoretically, continuing. Yes, I know in vivo RCA-as-the-failure-is-actively-occurring isn’t really how failure analysis processes are supposed to be done… but nonetheless, it’s led me to some interesting and insightful observations and conclusions over the years.

Or, if I try to distill that down to the essence of finding useful answers in the observation of platform collapses: it’s about continuing to drill down past what seems like a surface-level reasonable answer. There’s almost ALWAYS more going on.

Twitter, for instance, is a fascinating case-study on this, and the author of this blogpost appears to have similar thoughts.

Reddit is also a fascinating case study. A couple of hilights:

• it’s historically been much closer to a text-based tiktok with a highly interactive userbase - I.e. it’s somewhat less of a social graph, and instead much closer to an interest graph.
• spez et al decided to capriciously change how the graph works (how users discover and interact with content; how communities are managed and moderated).
• Then they decided to try to force a return to normalcy under drastically changed conditions, in the interest of driving profitability/ad revenue/etc for their VCs.

Obviously there’s a LOT more nuance and many more points to explore there. I’d be very interested to learn more about the internal analysis and due diligence that Reddit leadership did before this whole shitshow really kicked off. I’d be interested to know how much and to what degree of nuance decision makers at Reddit are familiar with social and group theory, and whether (and how) that may or may not have affected this whole thing. Id be interested to know the degree of internal pushback against (what I think everyone agrees are) capricious, ill-advised structural changes, if any. I’d be interested to know more about the financial position of Reddit, Reddit’s investors, the VC subset targeting social network companies, and the VC industry in general. And the list goes on.

Again, there’s a lot to investigate here. There’s a lot of lessons to learn, and a lot of anti-patterns that can be discerned and avoided in the future. I hope that will eventually lead to a more sustainable, healthy, more community-centric and long-lived social platform - maybe it’s lemmy, maybe it’s something else that comes later; for now though, imo, it’s lemmy.

The problem with reddit was never the content, communities, or jokes…