This is also the implied response of every doordash delivery person everytime I pay $35 for what shows up as a cold—ass paninni 75minutes after my order and I’ve irrevocably “pre” tipped them 18% for the delivery.
Every… time? That is just absolutely insane to me. I’ve literally never used that kind of service and I can’t understand how so many people pay so much money for that it
You must have a lot of disposable income or something
It’s a mixed bag. Imagine having only three restaurants that deliver to you (and two suck) and then all the sudden you have a whole city of restaurants that are available to you and you hardly ever have time or want to deal with going into the city to do a pickup. That’s my experience. I don’t use it everyday or every week, but it just stinks that when I do it’s very expensive and hey, maybe that’s justiable (freemarket whatever), but to have service issues where clearly zero effort was made to transport the stuff appropriately feels like a real “hehe”.
Or like, what if you’re drunk/high and traveling isn’t really an option, but you’re hungry? I’ve never used DoorDash, but it seems like that’s the type of thing that’d get the majority of business.
It makes more sense if you are actually in an urban area. I get hot food in 20 minutes from the places within a few blocks. I assume the people complaining are out in the suburbs or are ordering food from far away.
I’m pretty sure you can adjust the tip after delivery.
Also, the 18% is likely why your food is cold. Dashers are expecting over 25% now (which is part of why I stopped using them).
You’re lucky that the food being cold is all that’s wrong, because some entitled assholes will fuck with your food if the tip isn’t high enough (even though they accepted the job knowing the tip)
As a former dasher myself, dashers are expecting that because it needs to be worth the time, cost of gas, and wear and tear on their car to even do the order.
Doordash only pays around $2.50 per order. If it’s a really bad one (long distance, a slow restaurant that takes up a lot of time, long driving distance) DoorDash might add a dollar or two to get someone to take it. If your food is cold, it’s probably because no one wanted to take your order because it wasn’t worth it, so you have to wait until a driver who doesn’t understand that they’re spending more money than they’re making takes a bad order. Sometimes the restaurant is slow or says an order is ready when it isn’t. The “tip” is pretty much the whole pay for the order. And if the tip is really good, sometimes DoorDash takes part of it without telling anyone.
Also, DoorDash doesn’t always show you the whole tip amount. There’s a note that says “the actual tip may be higher.” Usually it’s not, but they leave that “maybe” in there to bait you into acceptimg orders that cost more to deliver than you earn.
There are definitely some shitty drivers. But a lot of people don’t have a choice but to do gig jobs. People with disabilities who need to have flexible schedules because they don’t qualify for disability assistance and they can’t commit to a schedule because of random symptom flare ups. People with criminal records. People with social anxiety. Minorities. People learning English.
DoorDash is to blame here, not the drivers. They need to call it something other than a “tip.” The suggested “tip” amount should be based on the driving distance, not a percentage of the order cost. And they should pay drivers more out of the “service fees” they get for sitting back doing nothing and letting the app print money for them.
And back during covid, it was the drivers that helped keep some places from going under because they would have otherwise not been able to have customers at all.
I may not be able to afford the cost, but I respect the fuck out of people doing the work and want them to get paid properly.
Really don’t think you can adjust it anymore, think that was an old feature.
I assumed they were blinded to the tip - you are saying the tip amount actually acts like a bidding war for even getting people to accept the order? That’s even poorer design than I thought.
UberEats still allows it, I believe. But people abuse that feature by “tip baiting” someone to take their order, then removing the tip after the driver has already spent the time, gas, and effort to deliver it. The driver could spend an hour on the order and only make $2.50 during that time, minus the cost of gas. Happens a lot with orders that are several miles away from the restaurant especially, because no one wants to pay enough to make the trip worth it for the driver.
I knew someone that was a dasher. She told me she would eat people’s food and totally mess with it, regardless of the tip. After hearing her stories, I never order door dash or similar anymore.
Possibly, but that wouldn’t have stopped her. If anything, it would have encouraged her. She also stole a lot from stores and friends and was an insane liar. She was a complete piece of shit human.
I don’t think most of them are pieces of shit like her though. People respond to incentives, there’s not much incentive or hedonic gain for most of us to mess with each other’s food. If you think me tipping you $7 on top of what you are being paid to do a delivery is some sort insult and you poop in my taco, I’m not going to tip you more next time. This is starting to bleed into a discussion about tipping which is about as fun as having an abortion discussion in the US, so on that note I’m out
Most places have started putting security stickers on their bags. These days if anything goes wrong it’s just straight up that the food doesn’t get delivered.
I really need to shut up about this, but can’t help myself.
Who the hell brainwashed society into using percentages on delivery?
For a restaurant there is at least a rough correlation between the work done by the server, the time they’ve spent tending to you, and the cost of the meal. Tipping falls apart under any kind of logical analysis, but there’s like at least a little bit of sense in using a percentage here.
If I order a $10 burger that you drop off on my porch should I pay you 10x more if you drop off a $100 steak? If you answered yes, please just get fucked.
I agree with you but I believe I have an answer. The implication is, if you can afford to buy the $100 steak, you can afford to tip more. And if you can’t afford to tip more, you shouldn’t but the steak.
Which is horrible, and dumb, and tipping is garbage. But that’s where that comes from.
I drove for a decade before the apps and this is exactly how it worked. Tipping expectation was proportional to distance and most people understood this. If the order was big enough to require multiple trips to the car (basically a catering order or like 20+ pizzas) we’d expect another $5 or so.
This is also the implied response of every doordash delivery person everytime I pay $35 for what shows up as a cold—ass paninni 75minutes after my order and I’ve irrevocably “pre” tipped them 18% for the delivery.
I mean, stop using doordash
That’s on you…
Every… time? That is just absolutely insane to me. I’ve literally never used that kind of service and I can’t understand how so many people pay so much money for that it
You must have a lot of disposable income or something
It’s a mixed bag. Imagine having only three restaurants that deliver to you (and two suck) and then all the sudden you have a whole city of restaurants that are available to you and you hardly ever have time or want to deal with going into the city to do a pickup. That’s my experience. I don’t use it everyday or every week, but it just stinks that when I do it’s very expensive and hey, maybe that’s justiable (freemarket whatever), but to have service issues where clearly zero effort was made to transport the stuff appropriately feels like a real “hehe”.
It seems like it would be much cheaper and better to just go to the restaurant and eat there instead of dumping money on doordash
i had to use it when i didn’t have a car and couldn’t get groceries or whatever sometimes. nice little tool to keep the poor poorer
Or like, what if you’re drunk/high and traveling isn’t really an option, but you’re hungry? I’ve never used DoorDash, but it seems like that’s the type of thing that’d get the majority of business.
Ok, I’ll do that when Burger King lets me smoke a fat blunt in their dining room.
It makes more sense if you are actually in an urban area. I get hot food in 20 minutes from the places within a few blocks. I assume the people complaining are out in the suburbs or are ordering food from far away.
cold ass—paninni
I prefer my ass-paninnis warm, thanks.
I’m pretty sure you can adjust the tip after delivery.
Also, the 18% is likely why your food is cold. Dashers are expecting over 25% now (which is part of why I stopped using them).
You’re lucky that the food being cold is all that’s wrong, because some entitled assholes will fuck with your food if the tip isn’t high enough (even though they accepted the job knowing the tip)
As a former dasher myself, dashers are expecting that because it needs to be worth the time, cost of gas, and wear and tear on their car to even do the order.
Doordash only pays around $2.50 per order. If it’s a really bad one (long distance, a slow restaurant that takes up a lot of time, long driving distance) DoorDash might add a dollar or two to get someone to take it. If your food is cold, it’s probably because no one wanted to take your order because it wasn’t worth it, so you have to wait until a driver who doesn’t understand that they’re spending more money than they’re making takes a bad order. Sometimes the restaurant is slow or says an order is ready when it isn’t. The “tip” is pretty much the whole pay for the order. And if the tip is really good, sometimes DoorDash takes part of it without telling anyone.
Also, DoorDash doesn’t always show you the whole tip amount. There’s a note that says “the actual tip may be higher.” Usually it’s not, but they leave that “maybe” in there to bait you into acceptimg orders that cost more to deliver than you earn.
There are definitely some shitty drivers. But a lot of people don’t have a choice but to do gig jobs. People with disabilities who need to have flexible schedules because they don’t qualify for disability assistance and they can’t commit to a schedule because of random symptom flare ups. People with criminal records. People with social anxiety. Minorities. People learning English.
DoorDash is to blame here, not the drivers. They need to call it something other than a “tip.” The suggested “tip” amount should be based on the driving distance, not a percentage of the order cost. And they should pay drivers more out of the “service fees” they get for sitting back doing nothing and letting the app print money for them.
Let’s blame the right people here.
Preach!
Straight up, the drivers need a union.
And back during covid, it was the drivers that helped keep some places from going under because they would have otherwise not been able to have customers at all.
I may not be able to afford the cost, but I respect the fuck out of people doing the work and want them to get paid properly.
THANK YOU. 👍
Really don’t think you can adjust it anymore, think that was an old feature. I assumed they were blinded to the tip - you are saying the tip amount actually acts like a bidding war for even getting people to accept the order? That’s even poorer design than I thought.
UberEats still allows it, I believe. But people abuse that feature by “tip baiting” someone to take their order, then removing the tip after the driver has already spent the time, gas, and effort to deliver it. The driver could spend an hour on the order and only make $2.50 during that time, minus the cost of gas. Happens a lot with orders that are several miles away from the restaurant especially, because no one wants to pay enough to make the trip worth it for the driver.
If extra money is given before service is rendered, it’s not a tip, but a bribe.
I knew someone that was a dasher. She told me she would eat people’s food and totally mess with it, regardless of the tip. After hearing her stories, I never order door dash or similar anymore.
Isn’t that illegal?
Possibly, but that wouldn’t have stopped her. If anything, it would have encouraged her. She also stole a lot from stores and friends and was an insane liar. She was a complete piece of shit human.
I don’t think most of them are pieces of shit like her though. People respond to incentives, there’s not much incentive or hedonic gain for most of us to mess with each other’s food. If you think me tipping you $7 on top of what you are being paid to do a delivery is some sort insult and you poop in my taco, I’m not going to tip you more next time. This is starting to bleed into a discussion about tipping which is about as fun as having an abortion discussion in the US, so on that note I’m out
she would 100% be the person that would do that.
Number fifteen…
THE LAST THING YOU’D EXPECT IN YOUR BURGER KING BURGER IS SOMEONE’S FOOT FUNGUS
Most places have started putting security stickers on their bags. These days if anything goes wrong it’s just straight up that the food doesn’t get delivered.
Expecting 25%? Where are you hearing this?
I really need to shut up about this, but can’t help myself. Who the hell brainwashed society into using percentages on delivery? For a restaurant there is at least a rough correlation between the work done by the server, the time they’ve spent tending to you, and the cost of the meal. Tipping falls apart under any kind of logical analysis, but there’s like at least a little bit of sense in using a percentage here. If I order a $10 burger that you drop off on my porch should I pay you 10x more if you drop off a $100 steak? If you answered yes, please just get fucked.
I agree with you but I believe I have an answer. The implication is, if you can afford to buy the $100 steak, you can afford to tip more. And if you can’t afford to tip more, you shouldn’t but the steak.
Which is horrible, and dumb, and tipping is garbage. But that’s where that comes from.
I drove for a decade before the apps and this is exactly how it worked. Tipping expectation was proportional to distance and most people understood this. If the order was big enough to require multiple trips to the car (basically a catering order or like 20+ pizzas) we’d expect another $5 or so.
Fucking hell. Glad the robots are taking over food delivery.
Count yourself lucky if you hace access to that. A ways away for most of us.
Half the time I’ve doordashed I swear the driver eats some of my food.
I call the restaurant due to the missing food and they don’t understand why when they double checked the order.
Yeah… I don’t door dash anymore.
Just get yourself a home cook
I’m just gonna drop this here for future readers.
Why would you tip for delivery? Or ever?